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1/o(. l • FBI - CENTRAL RECORDS CENTER HQ - HEADQUARTERS HQ-0000-867758 : HQ Class / Case # Serial # Sub Vol. 0062 83894 438 8/11/1274161 11!1 Ii ii II 1 RRPOOJL'<GJ ONLY ' . U NITED STAT ES DEPARTMEN T OF J U ST I C E .) F E DERAL B U R EA U OF INVE S TIG ATION In Reply, Please R efer to Fik N o. Albuquerque , New Mexico May 8 , 1964 UNIDENTIFIED FLYIN:r OOJECT SOCORRO, NEW MEXICO APRIL 24 , 1964 Specia l Agent D. Arthur Byr nes , Jr ., Federal Bureau of I nvest igat ion , stat ioned at Albuquerque , New Mexico , was at Socorro , New Mexico , and a t t he State Pol ice Office t here on business l a t e afternoon of Apr i l 24 , 1964. At a ppr oximately 5 : 45 to 5:50 P. M., Nep Lopez , r adio oper ator in the Socorro County Sheriff ' s Office, located about t hi r t y feet down the hall f r om the State Poli ce Office , came int o the State Police Office . Mr . Lopez advis ed M. S . Chavez , New f,iaxico St at e Polic e , that he had just rece i ved a r adio call from Officer Lonnie Zamora to come to an area about one mile southwest of Socorro . The call was in relation t o some unknown object which "landed and has taken off . " Agent Byrnes finished his wor k in the State Poli ce Office at Socorro at approximat ely 6:00 P . M., April 24 , 1964 , and ther e­ after proceeded t o the site where Officer Zamora , Socorro County Under sher iff Jim Luckie , Ser geant M. S . Chavez , and Officer Ted Jordan , New Mexico State Police , were assemb led . It may be not ed that it has been the obser vat ion of Agent Byr nes t hat Offi cer Zamora , known i ntimate l y for approximat ely fi ve years , is well regar ded as a sober , industrious , and conscient ious officer and not given t o fantas y. Officer Zamora was noted to be perfectly sober and somewhat agitat e d over his experience . Special Agent Byr nes noted four indent at i ons in the rough gr ound a t t he "sit e" of t he object des cribed lM. '-cum~nl: con~ ins neithe, recomm@ndations . . , <•ndus,o ns of any l::i nd el r; • • ....,. • 1.. < ,s th e prop e rtt the 8 1, ,ind is a fo an to you r agency; it and/ or ib conteitts ue ne t t o be cli:;tributed o utsi de your ... . t UNIDENTIFIED FLYI?«r OBJECT by Officer Zamora . These depressions appeared regular in shape, approximately sixteen by six inches rectangular. Each depression seemed to have been made by an object going into the earth at an angle from a center line. Each depression was approximately two inches deep and pushed some earth to the far side. Inside the four depressions were three burned patches of clumps of grass. Other clumps of grass in the same area appeared not to be disturbed . One burned area was outside the four depressions. There were three circular marks in the earth which were smooth , approximately four inches in diameter and penetrated in the sandy earth approximately one-eighth of an inch as if a jar lid had gently been pushed into the sand . No other person was noted in the area the night of April 24 , 1964. No other objects were noted in the area possibly connected with the incident related by Officer Zamora . So far as could be noted , there were no houses or inhabited dwellings in the area or in sight of the area. - 2- UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Albuquorque , liew y 8 , 1964 In Reply, Please Refer to File No. xico UNIDBNTIPIED FLYIN'.i <13JECT SOCORRO, HBW XICO APRIL 24 , 1964 Special Agent D. Arthur Byrnes , Jr ., Federal Buroau of Investigation , stationed at Albuquerque , New xico, vas at Socorro , New .:.bX1co, and at the State Police Office there on business late afternoon of April 24 , 1964 . At approXimately 5:45 to 5 : 50 P . u., Nep Lopaz , radio operator in the Socorro County Sheriff ' s Office , located about thirty foot dO'WD the hall frOJ.1 the f tate Polico Office , came into the state Police Office . !.%r . Lopez adviSed I.f. r . Chavez , :few xtco State Police , that he had just received a radio call from Offic er Lonnie Zamor,a to come to an aroa about one mile southwest The call was in rela tion to sot1e unl:nown objec t whic h "landed and has tak&n off . " A.gent nyrnes finished his work in the State Police Office o.t focorro at approximately 6 : 00 P . M., April 24 , 1964 , and thereafter proceeded to the site ~e Officer z ora, Socorro Couuty Undersheriff Jim Lue kie , Sergeant . s . Chavez , and Officer Ted Jordan, New Uexico State Police , were assembled . of focorro . It may be noted that i t has been the observation of Agent !lyrnes that Officer Zamora, known intimately for approximately five years , is well regarded as a sober , industrious , and conscientious officer and not give:ii to 'f11ntasy . Officer Zamora was noted ~o be perfectly sober end somewhat agitated over bis experience . S~ial Agent Byrnes noted four indentations in the rough ground at the "site" of the object described UNlDB?ff IJ'mD FLYI?G OBJECT • by o.tficar Zamora. These depressions appeared regular 1n sha~ , approximately sixteen by six inches recta.QgUl&r. Each de~ession seemed to have beon made by an object going into the earth at an angle from a centor line . Each de~eBsion was approx1.ma.tely two 1ncbee deep and wsbed some earth to the far side. Inside the four deprese1ons woro threo burned patches of clumps of grass . Other clumps ot grase- in the same area appeared not to be disturbed . was outside the four de~essions . One burned area. There were tbreo circu lar marks in the eartli which wore smooth , approximately four inches in diameter and penetrated 1n the sandy earth approX1.mately one◄ ig)lth of aw inch a.a if a jar lid had gentlJ 'been P\l&hed 1nto tho sand. No other person was noted in the area the niaht of April 24, 1964. No othor objects were notod ln the area possibly connected with the incident related tiy Officer Zamora. So for as could be no'ted , there wer$ no houses or inhabited dwellincs in the area or in sight of the area . -2- UNITE D STATES D E PARTMENT OF JUSTICE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVE STIGATION a In Reply, Please Refer l o File No. 1 Qt , a Jr., F~ldt!~ bu Apri.1 24, 1004. t ·~UiUI 5:45 to 5:50 P . . ber 1 f ' ~1 oc nbe>Ut thirty fco c, u~ . ta of ob ~1 at dtct o. ;t a r ·=~=~~: :.,.,.n Tile ion - ~f . ce ,.-auu 0:0 :ooc!ed ~~ .QC:s(iroJ0118d . 1"'Sbor t in 24 , Of t TW. cfocVffMtftt contains 11either - ..- nd t· . • - v.....,e a ron, ... f!OflClu s,ons of any liind fl •- ~L fll t. f:Bt d • • ff °'• pto puty • , 1111 II a loan to you,_. .•nc,i it and/or liefttHts ue 11ot t• be dis~ecl .~!d . . . .,. -~ •your fie= !IF ~-- :ill ,..-~ &IIC ""-llliiillllllil~lla ~.,.... ~-- • . . _ bJ all d:J,-1 '9-1111 llt"wiclll,.. ,...eM':1.11 \to IJae ~~ Bi.S SacbliNt NO~J.w . • oeirtilirr 11a. 11111 dNp mKl ~ -..... lalli61 ta 4aut" ~ m WN er. bur1l.a :tc'hie of oi...- of. p-w. ot-.r pe of •- - J.a ua • ~ illO't to t.. 41illul'bld . one area wi. Uii tour ~ . kililia~..-t- •Jucll . _ . ....,,v • ~ 1 1 ' Hur ·~ - 1a d ~ and paae'b.'aliir.1 ia '.tM - - - , Mr:sla ~~ l)' GM◄iab'Ua ot • laoh M U a Jar lid w pil'tlJ blliea Ptlflbed uto ta dacl . JI> ~ , . . . _ w ti% APl"il :24, 19M. --~ otf:108" z • ~ 1a . fJO hr iiid . . .1......... ~ ~ t Ro fllffl~ 1r1 iA tblt W UP !Mlftd~ ,.... JIO 111U11i191,a f . . . .. UNIT E D S TAT ES DEPARTMEN T OF J U STI C E FEDERAL B U R EAU OF I N VES TI G ATION In Reply, Pleaie Refer to File No. Albuquerque , New Mexico May 8, 1964 UNIDENTIFIED FLYI~ OBJECT MEXICO APRIL 24, 1964 SOCORRO, NE\'/ The following data were obtained from Officer Lonnie Zamora, Police Department 1 Socorro, New Mexico , the night of April 24, 1964, and early morning , April 25, 1964 , as related by Officer Zamora . Lonnie Zamora, 606 Reservoir Street , Socorro, New t~xico , 835-1134 , Officer Socorro Police Department about five years , office phone 835- 0941 , now on 2:00 P. M. to 10:00 P . M. shift . About 5:45 P . M. , April 24 , 1964 , while in Socorro 2 Police Car (1964 Pontiac white) started to chase a car due south from west side of Courthouse . Car was apparently speeding , and was about three blocks in front . At point on Old Rodeo Street, (extension of Park Street south) , near George Morillo residence (about one- half mile south of Spring Street) . The chased car was going straight ahead toward rodeo grounds . Car chased was a new black Chevrolet, (it might have been Floyd Reynolds ' boy , Vivian , about 17). Chased car still about three blocks ahead . n.r. Joaim~nt contains neithe r recom,..ncl.tiont ftor conclusrons of a11y ki 11J of • ••t 1·s tt.n• preperty • tfie f:lt, i nd is a lo.i11 to you r agencr. it end/ er its contents are not to be distrrbutecl out,ide you, .,._,.. UNIDENTIFmD FLYING OOJECT Lonnie alone. At this time heard a roar and saw a flame in the sky to the southwest some distance away--possibly a half mile or a mile. Came to mind that a dynamite shack in that area had blown up . Decided to abandon the chase, and to check on the flame. The flame was bluish and sort of orange too. Could not tell size of flame. flame, slowly descending. Sort of motionless Was still driving the police car and could not pay too much attention to the flame. a narrow type of flame. It was It was like a "stream down"-- a funnel type--narrower at top than at bottom . three degrees or so in width--not wide. Flame possibly The flame was possibly a mile south of Socorro , in isolated area. The flame about twice as wide at bottom as top, and about four times as high as top was wide . Did not notice any object at top, did not note if top of flame was level. /J Sun was to west and did not help vision. sun glasses over pres cription glasses. Had green Could not see bottom of flame because it was behind the hill . No smoke noted. dust? Noted some "commotion" at bottom-­ Possibly from windy day--wind was blowing hard . Clear sunny sky otherwise--just a few clouds scattered over area. -2- UNIDENTIF mD FLYl?-li OBJECT Noise was a roar, not a blast. Not like a jet. Changed from high frequency to low frequency and then stopped. Roar lasted possibly ten seconds--was going towards it at that time on the rough gravel road. as long as heard the sound . recall. Saw flame about Flame same color as best as Sound distinctly from high to low until it disappeared . Both car windows were down. No other spectators noted--no traffic except the car in front--and car in front might have heard it but possibly did not see it because car in front was too close to hill in front, to see the flame. After the roar and flame, did not note anything, while going up the somewhat steep rough hill toward the flame site . Got up about half way first time, wheels started skidding, roar still going on, had to back down and try twice again before made the hill. Hill about sixty feet long, fairly s tee p and with loose gravel and rock. While beginning third time, noise and flame not noted. After got to top, traveled slowly on the gravel road westwardly . Noted nothing for awhile, for possibly ten or fifteen seconds , went slow , looking around for the dynamite shack--did not recall exactly where the dynamite shack was. UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT Suddenly noted a shiny type object to south about 150 to 200 yards . glance, stopped. upside down . It was off the road. At first It looked, at first, like a car turned Thought some kids might have turned over . Saw two people in white coveralls very close to the object . One of these persons seemed to turn and look straight at my car and seemed startled--seemed to quickly jump somewhat. When I first saw the object , (when I thought it might be a car), I saw what appeared to be two legs of some type from the object to the ground . At the time, I didn't pay much attention to what it was--1 thought it was an accident--! saw the two persons . to the two "legs?" . I didn 't pay attention The two "legs" were at the bottom of the object , slanted outwards to the ground. The object might have been about th"ee and a half feet from the ground at that time . I just glanced at it. At this time I started moving my car towards them quickly, with idea· to help. couple seconds. Had stopped about only a Object was like aluminum--it was whitish against the mesa background , but not chrome . {) Seemed like in shape and I at first glance took it to be an overturned white car. Car appeared turned up like standing -4- UNIDENTIFmD FLYING OBJECT on radiator or on trunk, at this first glance. The only time I saw these two persons was when I had stopped, for possibly two seconds or so, to glance at the object. I don't recall noting any particular shape or possibly any hats or headgear . These persons appeared normal in shape--but possibly they were small adults or large kids . Then paid attention to road while drove towards scene. Radioed to sheriff ' s office, "Socorro 2 to Socorro, possible 10-44 (accident); I ' ll be 10-6 (busy) out of the car checking the car down in the arroyo . " Stopped car, was .still talking on radio, started to get out, mike fell down, reached back to put up mike, then replaced radio mike in slot, got out of car and turned to go down to where knew the object (car) was . AP my mike fell, I got out of car, at scene area, I heard about two or three loud "thumps , " iike someone possibly hammering or s hutting a door or doors hard. "thumps" were possibly a second or less apart. just before the roar. These This was The· persons were not seen when I got up to the scene area . -5- UNIDENTIFIED FLYU(j OBJECT Hardly turned around from car when heard roar, (was not exactly a blast), very loud roar--at that close was real loud. Not like a jet--knows what jets sound like. started low frequency quickly, then roar rose in frequency (higher tone) and in loudness--from loud to very loud. same time as roar saw flame . At Flame was under the object. Object was starting to go straight up--slowly up . Object slowly rose straight up. Flame was light blue and at bottom was sort of orange color. From this angle, saw what might be the side of object (not end, as first noted) . to describe flame. Difficult Thought , from roar, it might blow up. Flame might have come from underside of object, at middle, possibly a four feet area--very rough guess. Can not describe flame further except blue and orange. No smoke, except dust in immediate area. As soon as saw flame and heard roar, turned away, ran away from object but did turn head several times towards object. Bumped leg on car--back fender area. southwest . Car facing Glasses fell to ground , left them there. Ran to north--car between him and object. Object was C::;> windows or doors. ground. in shape . It was smo oth--no As roar started, it was still on or near Noted red lettering of some type, like - 6- f"i,) UNIDENTIFIED FLYIID OBJECT Insignia was about two and one-half feet high and about two feet wide , guess. C /2ii, - ~ . Was in middle of object , like Object still like aluminum-white . After fell by car and glasses fell off , kept running to north with car between me and object . back couple of times. Glanced Noted object to rise to about level of car, about twenty to twenty-five feet, guess--took I guess about six seconds when object started t o rise and I glanced back. I ran I guess about half way to where I ducked down--about fifty feet from the car is where I ducked down, just over edge of hill . I guess I had run about twenty-five feet when I glanced back and saw the object about level with the car and it appeared about directly over the place where it rose from. I was still running and I jumped just over the hill--1 stopped because I did not hear the roar. I was scared of the roar, and I had planned to continue running down the hill . I turned around toward the object and at same time put my head towards ground , covering my face with my arms . Being that there was no roar, I looked up, and I saw the object going away from me, in a southwest direction . When the roar stopped , heard a sharp tone whine from high tone to low tone . At end of roar was this whine and the - 7- UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT whine lasted maybe a second . silence about the object . Then there was complete That's when I lifted up my head and saw the object going away from me. any closer to me. It did not come It appeared to go in a straight line and at same height--possibly ten to fifteen feet from ground, and it cleared the dynamite shack by about three feet . Shack about eight feet high. It Object was traveling very fast . seemed to rise up and take off immediately across country. I ran back to my car and as I ran back, I kept an eye on the object. I picked up my glasses , (I left the sunglasses on the ground), got into the car, and radioed to Nep Lopez , radio operator, to "look out the window, to see if you could see..an object." He asked, ''What is it?" looks like a balloon . " I answered, "It I don't know if he saw it . If Nep looked out his window, which faces north, he couldn't have seen it. I did not tell him at the moment which window to look out of. As I was calling Nep , I could still see the object. The object seemed to lift up slowly , and to "get small" in the distance very fast. It seemed to just clear the Box Canyon or Six Mile Canyon Mountain . - 8- It disappeared as it UNIDENTIFmD FLYIN:i OBJECT went over the mountain . It had no flame whatsoever as it was traveling over the ground , and no smoke or noise . Can t t tell how long saw object second time (the "close" time) , · possibly twenty seconds-- just a guess- -from time got out of car, glanced at object , ran from object , jumped over edge of hill, then got back to car-and radioed as object disappeared . Just before Sergeant Chavez got to scene , I got my pen and drew a picture of the insignia on the object . Feeling in good health . Last drink--two or thr ee beers--was over a month ago . Noted no odors . Noted no sounds other than described . Gave directions to Nep Lopez at radio and to Sergeant M. S. Chavez to get there . Went down to where the object had been and I noted the br ush was burning in several places . At that time, I heard Sergeant Chaves, (New Mexico State Police at Socorro), calling me on radio for my location, and I returned to my car , told him he was "looking at me . " Then Sergeant Chavez came up , asked me what the trouble was , because I was sweating and he told me I was white , very pale . I asked the Sergeant to see what I saw , and that was the burning brush . - 9- Then UNIDENTIFIED FLYI:00 OOJECT Sergeant Chavez and I went to the spot, and Sergeant Chavez pointed out the tracks . -10- UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION f _,.,.,,.,__ In Reply, Please Refer to File No. tnm>ENT ::ov .:r--"'CiCO • 1 4 , IED FLYDG ._....,_._. ICO APRIL folloaiug dat ore ol>tatnod fJ.• Officar ccarn, POlico Departcout , a, G par yoam, offlco Pb~io 835-0941, 11 it.bout fi to 10: O . nt D 2:00 P . • • shift . ~ 5:45 •• • in ocorro 2 Pll>lico Car tlac white) a car duo couth from oS! Courtho iag , and tartod to chase • Car aboUt tbroe bloclm 1D front . ion of couth) , outh of S Goar troet) . aboad 1tOWnrd rodeo groumkl . Cbovrolot , (it m1 t ba about 17) . 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After :tlli wh1 the ;ea:lillW'. f • 41.lI MJWird the ~S:ns't 1:ilMt, :w1-18 atU1.ecl ~ • ~ oo, bid &o back down aiid ~ :twiQit txtJ ~ ~:ter ~dl;J. am or filteeo. • le """"'-""lilMJ:I• ~ t . o r;uc~...a.J.d QOt • -- . • tq , tali'17 QI. flit ~aW to_p, U"&V9Jed B • .. iblf the Ul.118JITD'JID •LYDD m lll"T UOlli l&O to 300 wm!'dll. ·-""'!!!ii'. au tto~ I"" • Al • -t, 1iJli .. Ga ~ - Jd.-~t-• Mlii..... o ~ l e bl 'tl'Jdw co1llliliri1Jji ~ c i . . to tbe oa. 1cd - . _ look • ~ at -..1111M:i lecl--1. . . .11 114 QW ~ '° bti two ). I - ca tilla objeo , I 4.icl:ai•:t -,.., IIIICJI atleatt. . w ~ tt ....--. ~ -.o ~--- acolclliJti.~I - at -- , _,...,l<A •• I 4'Ali't pg- attntiolD to U. :two "Jesa?". of "BU~:Jaat. , (wllell I ::smqpn Whim I :/. • • tioll ,, • . I t nlll * 14ea a.I<~--~ .......... ·- bid - .ODING t .--~ PQlllf '* __. tit ( # ~-.ll!IQlil ~ ~ eilall..SU1Ut ~ wh11-4ro• ~ • - - • 4'bim a.a 1 3 to Socorro, ~ b i . aoo Pl tM ottr Uiie C a l ' ~ ill't1S ~ car, RS Oil rMiO, S to •"t pg't, mlilt te11 4olira, S'9Nbad ble.k rto pal 1QP 11:lllll, ',&;1111,,_.. nid ..... lmliif fJ lot I ~ caat cit OM' --1 tm."bN , Ar liiJlj ~-21 I pt ,JJlllG frca car 1dllan ....,d rou-, 'tur C. blut)• ~ lOli4 roar-at :tlia't clolie 11 a et-JQ:aoln what ~'kll ~ JJJDi. , tblhl YOU- rose 1a ~ (~~ Ob bit ~ .CMll!IIC1". 'to ~ load. MNIUl9...,o-i At r :the ob ect. tlllll to p • • ~ ' t •~low aigbt u ....... J.Ubt • 0.0 J"ramthS.eang :tfid,.p of db.;jllCI (JIO't end, m flaalt. ~lnrt AOted). TJane:,cbt, t !'1-- liipl 1111-.. o..e trca t t Difficult. GU', i t il1JJl,\t blow up. 1 • of obJttel, at lidcktle. a !GUI' f . .:t ~¥111'7 ~ ~ . Can 11ot ezce~ blui IIDCl ~ . 1 bieardr ru . . . , frcaa obJec't but did t"UrD hMd -911rril. tliiril8 ,Olfilrds 11111 c~k ~ object. souUIHat .-... n t to ncr-tb.....car betweu 1l1il , ~. a.. ject Objeot • • <:::::) J.n abape. wiiMioWB or doorw. ~- lt wu aaoot~ 68 :rCJM' etart4icl, s.t was stiil on« aellll' lfoW tea latter111e of 1K1111t tyi-, Ua /4; . lllmllffDIID • Jlalt ~ ~ill ... !iboillt ~ - ... • • 111&11.- Of ob,Ject , 11» ~~ •-.~ ~.-~lilt.. Alter fell bJ ~ ;witJl :,_.__, lbi1:willillli le or , 1 - . of I , -~ ja4 ob.14'0:t. o ri• to ecut 1-•l twi«t.'.tj to hllD'"~i• tN, , P I N :took I ts ._..._ wMa ob.111iOt nil:rted :to rlee iiliid I gla I:rMl~aboll daollll4 1caom.-.,....l)Glll:t :lift)' :i.e~ b' dolfti, J\IIS't o__. ; . - oif liill. :... hiltt Wbill I s....-liiWIA t ·~""" I • VJiDJffUIID •lZDD <l3JICT • tedillllfbiltaNICODd • ..,._ wlltb l Wtecl up 1!11 baad tJlil obj.Ot So1aC - · . 'It aPMUid , t o ~ :to 111.f lnii~ito - ~. , Ilrli .IIIB&N fttlaf • . . ., ,ow.r ~ JIOUDtatil• 11D t it 1:aoe'fU' - -:allil'c:#aoiM. t ..cond t,._ (ttia tell :MOGl!ldl;..... ust a .1:rlMlllllill......,;.s 'b ~ ~ bdare ... cSlw. Pie ftil.-- . ·~ - goo4 ,bei.l'th. ~. • dr·;l,.IIM-- .-ct. tllJLtee Gi.'8 i4J.NctlOIIS ito Jltp toPte to . .t ~ - ......, w.b- l'LY UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Albuquerque: Uow JeXico y s . 1964 In Reply, Please Refer to File No. UNIDENTIFIED FLYilli <EJECT SCCOBRO, • XJCO 1 APRIL 24, 1964 Tho following data wero obtained from iO.rficer xico , I.Dxmie Zaxaora, Police Department, Socorro, Now tbe night of April 24 , 1964 , and early morning , April 25 , 1964, as related b)' Officer Zamora. LOuie Zamora, 606 £osarwir street , Socorro, Nev xlco , 835-1134 , Officer Socorro Police Depart nt about f:lvo years , office p!aono 835-0941, now on 2 : 00 P . • to 10:00 P. . shift . About 5:45 P . . , A~il 24, 1964 , while 1D Socorro 2 Police Car (1964 Pontiac white) startod to chaso a car duo south from west oida ot Courtbouse . Car was apparentl.y speeding , and t1as about tbree blocl:s ln front . At point on 014 Rodeo Street , (o:ttension of Pm.:'.k treet south) , near George Morillo rootdonce (about ono-hall mile south of pr±uu street) . The chased car was coillC straight ue black ahead toward rodeo grounds . C01" chased was Cbevrol.$t , (it might have n Floyd Reynolds • boy , Vivlan , about 17) . ChMod car stil1 about three bloclm aboad . This' ·loc.111ent contains M ither recorn,mn1dations .., eonclu1ien1 of any kind. It is the propertr ~, the Flt. •~ is a loM to your age ncy: it and/ or 1h cellleflh ue not to be distributed outside you·, ..enc,. • ulDJltlTDIID 1'LYllG C13.JBCT Lomu• alolii. At th1s f.1Je aod. ..,, a ,flMe 1.1i Cbe sky to tba aout-..t m11e or• ui. . c... to idDd that• ~ i . aliack ill 'tllii't area bad b1awn :qp. cbeck OIi too. - ~ i b l t a half ._...,.. Jiiil fluia. Deola.d :to a1>DdoA lt!Ma chaae. Md to Tbi :llale 4W'U blili.Sb and 90l"t of o r ~ Co\114 JIOt tell atzfJ of flue . flmli , slow~ ,_,....,_ . car 1 ~ :tJie Iliad. could aot b • a il8ft'1JW type o1 f.l.alla • :I~ WM lille It was mion ~o tbe ~lilllll . f\lllQltl rt)'P►.-il&ttONr at ~ tbaD iat 'bcntaa. ttine eo !.D w14tJi-..ao't nde . Tba 1am .... PQ111111bU a \11111.e 80Uth of Socorro, iii. ieolatecl area . The f i... about wice u wide at txnic. u Md al>Ou't 1our \1aea u hip 'as i;op waa •lde . top, Did not iDOtlci ~ object ai t9P, dJ.d :not DOW if tQp at f lila6 WU i.w1. llll was t o ~ and 41'<1 not lwlp Yilllon . eun siw. . o - p1;....,...111uon s,.___ /J Bad l1"9eD Could lliot sea boHoa at 1J.ama becaUBe i t • • "'8:ID4 ti. lii.11 . No SIIOke 110""• Noted IICllle ''cCIIIDOtioa."' at bott......... duatf Poulbly from - ~ uy........illd ft1I bl.OW~ b&lr4 . CJ.hr 9IUP.IY e:Jc;y otbenr1se-juet a few clouds scattered oRr ai.:a. Jl'DD JlLYJlG macT Uo1ei _ . a roar. DO't a bJ.Mt. Bot lJJae a ~•'• ~ ~ J '.;to low frklMIDCJ and rt1-11 1-itid poea1bl¥ kll ,- - ~ • 1t at Oil \tile • "the • P>. M flaime co er • - t bile lto iOlf qatt1 tt 41• Bo\li 'cir Yi~~ • No Otllilr epeqb,tcn notecl--DO tritf:lc ..,_.pt :tile car m l r ~ d c• 1Ja :froet riich$ U.¥11 bui'd .t.'t but: ~:lbly d14 Uil>t . . . lt ~ - - - oar lD frODt YM ltoo 't.be fl.aa. e to hill ,in _. tor ne rC>id , 414 DO\ •1111- IIPQ~ up t ~--u-t iJ .......11--11 p ~ tilll ... • tl1e t tiaU ~ :fin1. :ts.ma, ~laae ai _....~·• roar att.11 SQ~ :to l>it.Ck cSowa ice about eixtJ feet , 'fairlJ -...- l>dont 11. steep and with .. 11a11~ val am rOCk. While -..-.- tb.lrd 11-t DOS... Md f Jaiilt DOt :aioted. rON . aot to 'top, .tra•led • P'•,.1 'Noted ilot~ for lbly te11 er t i t ~ ~ . ,rent eic., ~ ~ for ;tm dynaaitli s11aolG--cl1d DDt recall nactll, •Jairi Ula O,aaltite eb,lck vu. 'i'lffll 03&:CT 11 noted a shi.llY t)'Pe obJact to south It was oft 'tb8 roact. • A't fttat looked , at ~.inSt , liJm & Ca,." 11 h't 9011i8 Uids ~ ' I baa tU1'"Dllld O'VOl" ill wld:te c Pf,n"SODB C-1" -Xle nr, cJ.ose to tho ob.;Ject. .-illl:IIU. Nd. ~ ;.._;,;,.,.fYN!IID9Cl am. look sttai~t at ¢uickl.J 3\llllP a---•=t. Dben I fi.Nt eo , (1fben .I t ~ m.t.ght be a car) , I aa,r •* ~ " t o 1- two~ at some fyP, .;tect 4to • 41.wi •s pay tion 'to -l t aui aces. - At ~ - tlmli , l it .-as :two to tbe o! ~ . tQ.o (8 object ti.~ tbifl t idea to q: cou them on • op QbJe<:t ns a sh a backgrouml , Jia:pe and OW11Piurned ;wld.U car. !rSt. g.....,.~ took 1t to be Ul car N > ~ ~md up lilr:e ,:rtaridtag lJRIDllf'l'IYDD rJaJJIJ 03.BCT • U OD oa 1Dd ~1- I . . , 'tballe --• "- - - was •be.Ii I . . .itify ~ . .uu.. . . or ilJO , ---, &lie 'Jdbjtict. tlt.18 ~J.Ht o c J ~ at I dcm' t recall no'tlitg ~ partlculal' llDP9 ~ l b ~ . . , - Jiau or ·--· ,.... ~ ~ ~ ill • b a ~ t P9Nib~ ~ ...,. - U adultl1 or lax-et kta. Ti.a PU4 •ttentiou :to S"oail irbl1- drow Jliiri.1:f ' • otf"t.c», ecene. 2 · 1:o , pc,B#lble <aacidb't) J 1•11 t>e 1 ~ ~ ) out al _. clwo~ tbe ~ 4owu 111 tbe ~ o . « ~piid car, wu mtil:l talki-. ■twted to nt out, .,._ fell dalha, NllliCMd bick 'to put UP Jld;q , t1-ll replaced rad.lo lll1li, ill •J.ot• p t out ~ .c• aad tllZ'Di4 to so dam ~ •blmt lmiln &bi o b ~ ( ~ ) ..... aot °'1t J beard ibN-1 two or t1rrN 1ou4 1 "t.,.......,. • • , at • like ~ ~ - -· t i - a ~oor or doors liarrl. -IPIIII_. u,J.y •~oad oz, lNai . - r t . fore *• roar-. •• TbHe l'b:Le . . . Tbl ~ .,_. not 1!l8Gn When I aot DJJIDBlrJ'UDD l'LYIJG a3acT llilrd~ tar:s»d •OIUMI f r • OIII' wbeli bul"d ;roar• (wu IIOt exactly a blut) • ~ lOll4 ~ t i t tllat olose ._ ~~- wbat ~tis 1lalllld 11.lla. JIOt UM ow ~ 1"'0B8 J:D f ~ J 1ou4 to __., lcilad. ~ ) aad l i l --- !Jli - . ~ . . . ifl.111111. At Plw b8 ....,_. tJie :C)bJect . ObJec-1 ,,_ 111'tar:f4aj to So ~ t ~ l o w b p. Object wlciiirlt ~ •tralpt •P· r i . - . . . l.1iht l>we and at bottoa .,.. _ . . of . . _ colar. FrGlll "tMB - - i ., - wu-1 l)ligJ:lt bit the al.de .ot, ob~ ~ .ad, . . lint •owd) . to 1•1e:1~be f.laliil- . DUIicult b'al roar , lt iA,8bt blaw up. l'l.Ullt -1Pt • • ccae f r • ~ of ob~t , at ~ l e , 1ti • 1our f. ~ -- ~:::.... f 1• C.ilin aot --- ldllaad !Qbjt,et . . . or CJ roe- .starMd, l t ,... ,t~;of----t -6- ill OQ ,or ~ •Ul -ball f • t hiP am aborlt abOUt no t• two ie-i Yidilt . . . . . • --~ --? . dcl1At at ob .at . liJiait Object ill Altes" fel-1 b)' c ~.._.. w aoirth wttb car t.e . l" ...... - fall of.I , - ~ ob,:Je10t . ,...._iaft back ~ l i t of HaN . Roted Obj.ct 'to rt• to about lew'l a:r, a.boUt tnn ~-lift ,Wt , ...--'M>ak t • I raa ii ~ 1'bolR ball 1'19 it gla..,., :Dack. UU.I~ lad I n. ob~t dartN 1: I ~abOl1t :tut:, ~. .t uma ti.. c .... 18 ~ x dua:1184 dollll , ~•t 0119S" . _ of tweilty-!ive teit When 1 about bi object 'About .uual,,GU level wlth ti. car Md ¼'t ~ uon 4b"9otlj ONr tbe piac. irbere :l.t l'ON fr,m. I .... et111 TUDDi~ iD4 hi1J.-.i-l stop •CartKI of 1-0 ~ down thit hill. - , ~ I it t • • ~ - objec't saot hiNir .4 oalli...-1& ~illil ~t 1111Y beM : t ~ 1111 , . . . _._ tbe roar . 1 ,,.. to OGQtit&'la l'\Ullli:Qs - ~ tlli CO'Wtr~ J."OM' , t ~ •t ace •1th ,, aDd 1 • iJa a ~ t dinlctiGa . Wbu the r ~ atop~. be.a• ~harp tone•~ traa a:gh :tone m low tODe. At em of roar . . . tb.la Wine Ul4 the Bl'D'IBD FLYIIG (13 - Y1siae hiiiNd 1!lli1bll a - - ­ eilanoe ~ t tbit ~eot . Tba't' • •liea I lifted up .., Mad It 414 DOt COM. aliCl .,., the obJect SoiDS n a y , ~ - · lt i N > ~ to go 1A a atra.glal UDt i:Qd at .... b91sllt-~ib11. t4IJl ;to lltteu feot f.Nlll ~ # alld it .cJAtlz'ed tJae ~ w ahilick J;IJ aboiat tJree t . .t . t c..t lllsh. .i;out ObJ tM11111ra to rtse up Dd ttlk8 - - ate~ acrcn couattjr. k , I apt aa n. cm :ti. I pi.eked up aq K Wt tbe ~las OD ndlOld w Ha!) ~ -tbe ground) , got :uato r:adlo oppr-ator , to ., objtqt . '' n .,.~ ""' :tillrt . to rq car eat I Sback . wlDda, to see H you could _.....,... l'll'bat: u, it?'' I aan-- , "'It •t Jaiolr l'f ba ea.w it . a bal If N9p _ _ out 111• wlildc:IW ~ -.Id.ch 'taoee __.th , be caulda' t ·baw, I did 11 bua at the - - -· ,rlU,ob · ~ to look out ot. I • • e&lliaC , I cou14 aii11 s.. M Pl:aj~t • n. obJ to lttt gp slaw!)', and to ''Gift Sl1&11" u :the dlal fast~ It s. .11ec1 to Juet cliir -tbe l,ox c ~ or Sia ma c ~ ~ - Jt c l i ~ • 1t 1Jll1Dll'l'D'DD _.Jallli CS3.JIIC'l' ..aat 0...- 1be JIIIOUQtaa. I~ had DO .fUalil Ybatsoewa- M ~1: • • :txravelu_as OW# Die s;i-OUDd, :...i illl:> eaoJai or nouse. Call 't tell how lOlW . . object eeooad tille (ta '!el;oile.. itU.> • 1)01tidblJ .iWlfaity ,-CODda~-~uat a UUIN~ml ti.Ila eot out Of car, sl.ano4i4 at dlject, ran fl"m ob.;t.ct, j1lllipe4 o,,_. tdP ~ .:bill, ~ gqt baCJc ~o CR aJMl ndloed M Object~. Juilt t>e:fore Se,aeut Chavez p t to sow, I got !lflY. pen aud 'drtnr a piot.ur.a of 'tbe UlliliPia oa tbe object. 1"9elt..s 111 sooil . . .1u. IAiit dt-SnJ&--two or t...-e Hot.I _, Odore. ~ other 'tbllll deacr!.becl. Noted IIO Gaw directlGDS to Dip I o ~ at ridio Md : t o ~ 11. e. Chaws to a.t ~ . 'lent don to wbu'e :thi object ~ in N~al .a W.n i1Uld I OONd tbe ,.._h ftS plac•-. :&t l:ba.1 ts..., t ~ e....-t Cha,,.., '1irR Ma:S.co state ~lice at Bocorro), cal.11~ . . on ridio ifor ay lOcat:lcm, and I a-.1:m'Jllld :to . , car, told Jhia be,... 0 looldnc at - · T l ulr.ed • bit told - Tbin ~ Cbavez cw up, what tbe ti'oublo waa, bicllUIN I I • • •hiie, ~ paJa. wu nea:tiq ...i I •lrlficl tbo ~ t to _,. wbat I ea• --1 ;t;liat was tba buhaini brush. Thlaa • UllDIUrJ.'DIID W.lllbG CII.IIC't ~ - Cbilvwz a1ld I . . . . So CJawm PQilltecl Gilt tm a'IIClllJ. *• •pc,t. ad 'Aiill"lllliil..t: I J - ~v - - I I \ I t~, I \ \ o" ,o .,l r ·d' - - - - - l,~'t \. I