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_· C O N F I D E N T I A L Au1horily: NND 90986 IN IUi.PlY l t ;t - '9 3 9 1 - / a 11 HEADQUA R TE R S AIR DEFENSE COMMAND MITCHEL FIELD, NEW YORK REFER TO, 12 Septel.'liber 19iT 'OBJCCT a Unident1f'ie Flying Objoot (Int rvin - Alphew, o. Powell) SUl.nlART O? mama TIO I The following information ft8 recei'Y&d 12 At1£U1t 1947 fro:i Ur. lpheua O. P01'ell , 28 Redwood Road, New Hyde Park, Loni; hlWld, rel tifl to the sighting of a poaoible flying d1so ~ Augu•t 194T. On 4 Auguet 19•7, r Powell, an Airlinea Captain with P n American Ainni.ye , Jne., waa the firet pilot or a Con1tollat1on type airoraft on• flight trcm Gander, ewtoundland, to La Guardia Field.. 1ew York. Mr. Powell took oTer the airoratt at Gander, ewfoundla.a.d and departed at approd111atel7 l2SO P. lf., Eo.ateni Dqlight Saving 'Hm ror La Guardia Field, Bow York. At 1600 P• • , at poe1tioa approximately lld.dway between the Enrett ( a) F&n Arker IUld the Bedford Badio Eoooon (ETerott ie 3 mile• ffl7 or Boeton.. Ka•• •• and Bodford 1• 15 ms.1.. or the same oity) both llr Powoll and Mr iv. 1:e, naT16ator on this trip, •i(;bted wrl.dent1.i'ioble flying objeota . fo the be•t ot llr . Povell'• knowledge, the tollonng weatbar oond1t1ons existed at that time , Visib1li't7 wae 6oodJ cloud oo.erage ••• trom. 8- 9/l.Oths # with topn at 10. 000 feeta md the wind at the e.ooo toot level was eati:.atod o.s bcin& 270/25 mlca per hour . The iroratt was at a.ooo teet1 airspeed 266 mphi &!ld the course•• 214 degre•• • magnetic. Ur mute , who wae sitting in the co-pilots seat (the right aide ot the oookpit) fir1t ce.lled 11:r. Powell ' ■ attention to a bright orango objeot,. -.rhich was on the right ald• ot' the plane , and slightly below the lovol of' the a1rerart . Jlr Powell fflll unable to 1ee the object. a1 he ba.d no visibility to the right nd down. from bla position. Po,rell inmediatoly cl11noed out bi1 eide wiudow and noticed, at a 45° angle to the lort. and unidentified tl:y1ng object. It wu bout one mile nay at an altitude or approx1matel 7 1 , 800 feet. Irr- Powell banked to obtain a better view or the objeot. The object 'fte under obaervat1on ~or approxtmatoly 50 ••oond1, and during thie time waa vie,red by Ponlle 1lr Powell dHor1be4 the objeot aa being bout the length ot & P-40 t uaelage , blunt at both end■ , 07llnclrioal in abspe . and hatlng a bright oran,o hue . Kr Powell. stated that the object had• definite sbapo, d that there 1me no aucgeatioa or gaaeoua d1ec1pe.t1on •• there would be lf the orange color wore the •xbauat tro~ • rocket , or a jet airoratt. Mr ~owell eatimato4 the oouree or th• objoot to be 200° magnetic, end that th• object wae tra-relling at approxinatel:, 160 aph. Kr Po,rc,11 loat sight or th• object, when. • oleud oaae between. the aircraft and the object. :rhe pursuit of 'th• object ..._. not oontinud. lnaaJIWOh H it would ha-re neoeaai tated a departur• from the eetabliahed aiJ"'lla1'• • ,/ CONFID~NTIAL C b N -F I D E ~~ T I A L HEADQ U ARTERS AIR DEFENSE COMMAND IN REPlY MITCHEL FIELD, NEW 'I/OR~ IIEFEII TO: 15 Septeaber 194,'7 StmJI?C'f z. Unldcntif ied Flying Object, (Interview - alter I. \i'hlto) S0?.!!1\RY OP Ir.FOlll!AHO t The follo-.ung informtion rcl~tivo to th8 d htiug or f. possible tlying di~o 6 Auzuat 1947. was received 10 Septo bor 1941 from Mr. Walter I . 'Whito, 19-67 19th Street. Ja.clcaon He1ghta, h• York. On 4 Ausu,t 1947., Hr. 1 te, Pen American Airwa,- Ino. • wao tho navigator or• Comtellation typ• &iroraft 011 & flight :fro O nder., Baw­ roundlo.nd to La Guardia f iel4, New York. At 1600; at & po•ition appro~i­ matel y 10 miles , or Bosto11, l!ua • ., Mr- v::bitc aighted a .tlyin(S object '1hioh h• waa unable to identif'7. At thi• time IL'" lffllit• was oi'ttift6 1n the co­ pilote sent, and loolc'lns out the right aide tor other uroratt that mlcht be in the, vie111S:t:,. J6r Wb1te •te.ted that when he t1rst i~ted t!te object. it nppou-od to o about S miloa awuy, aud at l•Qat 1. 000 ~eet beloir the leffl or the Conetellation. Mr i:hite beli•~•• tut he etudled th object tor almo■t SO aecond• befcre he called th• pilot'• att:Gntioa to i t. White doncr1bed the object•• 'being a deep gold in color. md that its• surface rerlected lieht. It appeered to bo bout 113 feet iJl:. length,. and. f'rOltl 2-:; feet in depthJ elli ptloal in 1h9pe and blanted at th cn4e. Hr te eati ted the speed of the obj1ot as being 176 mi.lea per hour. e.nd that it tra..-ellin& in 11D ee.at- r l y cilreotion~ one eourso ot approxitlately llOQ r,uetia. Mr Wlute then told tho nirore.ft oomm:i.ndor that there wns wi un1dentU'ied object to the r16}\t. and ag~in glanced ..out to observe the objoot, oatoh1ng a me atary gl1111.pce ot it before th9 pilot b11nked the pl ne to the left. ffllen tbt e.1rorntt banltod Ur White lost light of the 0bjsat. At thil potnt. Mr Powell, 'the aircraft C&ptain, exolaime<l that he wa.s &ble to eo a air:d.lar obj9ot on hia o1do. Jir \'ihi t. was unsble to ts o tne objeot on ' Pcrwoll' e •ide. ne •tated the.t he does not bel1en that it wuc tho• • obj~ot that he had Tielffld ift.8.elllUCh aa the on he li&W 1r it ha<t romaiuod on the aa oow- e woud ha.TO beou hidden trom 'View b;y that titie b7 'tho Wii:iGB t1nd tail oectioff! or the Conctella­ tion. ~ ffld to st tod 1.hat the pilot thoo righted the plo.:a.o. t'he ontb•• iu­ oident transpired in leoe 'then a min~te ond one-halt. i- 'Mr tvhito deacriMa 'tlie ath~, ooniition et the tilne of' si&btinE• • 0 folloirs a a'bout 6/lOt aoattered oumul ua, arith top• at 10.000 r et: vidblH.ty 10 miloe, w1rid at t·Ught lowl. 'l'est at a:bout 16 lllph. 1'he !'light level of th• a iror aft &t this ti ,nq,, a .'000 feet, TAB 270_ and tho cnotlo course was SW. \ AGEB1'S HOfflS , J4r ,c.l ter I . 1:te ha obeon employed by P&n rioan Airway, ' I for -the pa.at t'i "\"O years •• a Tiie.tor. and during the r Y10r1cod with Pil \ co~~FIDE~~TIAL co~~FIDE~~TIAL.. in conjunotion Wit h coctraot flying for th• .AlF. Mr TJblt. eta.tea tbat he ho.1 tloWA 'With Mr Ponll on a nmber of' oocaaiona, and h• ooruiclera h1a to be a Tery atabl• pertonJ completely reliable, an4 not t;i ven to •t11ght1 or tu.or" . So• Swmaa17 or lnfont&t1on, 12 September 194'7• Bq !DC. aubjeot~ •t1u1dentiti•d FlyiAg Objeota• (intemew • AlpbGua O. ?owell) . Reb.te4 Reports Prerloua Distribution, - lone ' 'ftluaticm Diltr1but1on - AAF (S oop1ea) - ADC (2 oop1e1) or aowce C or 1llt'ormat1oll s Mr. A. O. Powell 11 a graduate or the ATiation Cadet Flying Training Program. ha-.1.ng gradua.ted from Marnll l.l'ield , Alabama. With the AOE!JTS JIO'l'ES t Class ot ,n. c. Since graduation.. Irr. Powell ha.a flo,m .for Ptll!. AJHrioe.n Airway• and. at thi• date, h&a onr ~ , 000 oomm.and pilot houra to hla credit. Mr . Powell appear, to boa cala, intelligent ind1Tidual, ~ot giwu t o flights or tan.oy, or eaeilT •waT•~ by what he hae previoualy r~4 in the ne..,.papere •• reg•rda report• or thi• tn,e. Jtr. Po,rell haa a rear ot publi­ oity and eeemed h•e1tant to enn tell hia atory leat he beoo'IM tM objoot ot ridicule. llz- Powell was queationed as to the poasibility that what he aighte4 mi6ht have been a tow target, a pilot b&lloon, or a radioaonio device uaed for meteorological purpose• • Kr Powell at&ted that he has aeen aumerou, pilot balloona , radioaonic device• and tc,r targets, while on f l ight•J the object obaer,..d on thi• flight defhi tel7••• •ot on• ot th•• Evaluati on Prerloua Distributions - Rona of eo uroe or Wormatio11 C 8 Distribution - AAF (S copies) - ADC (2 copiea) y t CG~~FID E ~~T I AL 1 • t,r. Jlca.. sun, Jlrai--- u,, Blrat....... jla. • 4'4 I .r..i,. a.1. .J.UIO: nlt.11 -or, oa J,00&1 •1'171ac Dteo. • I ~Yi . 1., lad.,; -Mj~, JOUliDift AI• JOB«>•, Orlaaclo, l'lort.4&, . 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JCl""r " o •,,l...,.r ..... .:. .... . . ... (.., l.:. tu ': .:.. ., 1.;..: 1 01101·.:.:-. 0 J .iv c, ,,,. ' vv ,. • • .. Cl ' n: 11 I,; ... , ,, t., ... J"r • ..IT __j_r .,<;1· ;;o· . • n~ i11 ; C 'l' / __, Report on Loofl. "'fflPS Diac" 1>333.5 ID (8 Jul 2nd In1 HQ., ADl DEP'DSB COIOIARD, Kitchel Field, Bew York, 2S JuJ.r 1947. 47 '1'01 CollaandiA& General, A.NT Air Forces, lfa•hington ~5, D. c. ATflh AC/AS-2 Forwarded tor your intoraation. FCR TH! COIIU.NDING GENERAL: ~ 3 Incle: / n/c R. S Colonel, GSC ✓ ti Asst Chiet ot St~t-Intell• • • .,.!Ir. . . . . . ~ . . U, · • WHtflw ,ror ■lrml"9hllffl •fk1 Y~~ • fJartfy cloudy end we,m toctayf t. night end tomorro,w wlttt • few scattered shower• this aftMnoon. Hlth today N, low tonltht 70, hlth tomorrow IO. PftlCI: rom y • CINTS cers Reported t~,teS, But· Seem •• I d Here • City Is Baffled By ·- Dazzling Display Of· Spooky Discs • TIM stra111e. th1ap tut haT• been Lil nfaht lkJes naee ..June 25, o-,er Blrmhapam last nlallt. On one thtn1 everyone who bu ...._ Ille mystertoua objects acre• WeN -tbeJ are round, saucer-lib. After that. every ,tory differs. Each ol the hundreds of callers who re-- .A parted wttnetliq the bafflinl UT ) delllon1tratlou here last nl1ht hacl a different Yenion of what the7 .... lome 1ald the objects -ro larp, ,ome small. TIiey were mov• .._ at ll"eat ,peed. Tbe, were 1u. padecl hl the air. Tbere wu aound , i . . Witll ~Ir movement.. Tbe7 m"8d nolNleulythrQa,h the blaek ~- TIiey were at ,reat diatance from the earth.~ bad fallen to the ,niaDd. They were la perfect formalloa. Tbq weN collldlDC with Neb other. But wbatever the thm,a are that have aet the nation acot liDce f1nt reported 12 da)'I aco by a man la W ' ~ n State, the7 cleflnltelY were over the Malle City Jut nilbt. It seem., ID fact, that more Bu,. minlbam realdenta aaw the objects tball hl ~ other place. • llEPORTS BEGAN comiq hlto the Aae-B"erald city room atvand I o'doclt Jut Dlabt. For more tball a11 lroour thereafter, the place was bedlam. Tbe switchboard operators were swamped with calla. Repo~ en, office boy1, copy rwaders evel)'one In the place wu cajled lllto actJon. y Reports came In from Ecqewoocf. Mountain Brook, Avondale, Soutb1lde, Palrfleld, Pratt Cll7, Wut End, Central PU$. Beuemer. Tbere wu fear, exclteme!)t. b.o r­ ror, S;!re~•J~.-..,.. ~~ One ••• - • - • tha , ~ ~· • I S-TIII / / • -•!¥tNWM NM ~Flying Saucers RlpOi1ed ,In ·B.irniinaha■ - Skies . Continued I',_ ,._ I Altlloqll tbe reporta to1l'lle A,._ Benld lat Dilld ........ off at aboal t p.m., tMN ...... llul call ftaa 'a mu at JI, ..,_ .. hd die ob,lec!ta Oftr. tie IOUth­ Nltern lfftlon. 'fll1I IDOl"lliq, t.bere ,... more reperta, DION quert• eominl Into Tile News. )IIJ. WllltelllaedaJDelllllto Blrmiqbam Nlidnta: "Wa'U do neryWq U.. Ana, Air Forefl I empowered to do ,to run down t.be lll1lterJ ol Ult dllca. Thia tblJII ..... to ..... _... be,olld tbe )obit of. IIPft1llatla. Blm!t111~m cu rest u..-ad tbe air bue wW keep - tbe alert uW tbe .,.. t.ry ls aettfed." • ' r l=!ajt•iiJ 'ii!ili!jJns ~i!;i!lijl'iniidt(t!JJ' .;· 5 i·1J1irtl s !!f'filil l~q 11t1l l i[:i ,ili ~1a,,1t at~l~,,, : ;. rfi1!lst1,• i .. 5I fl a.[ l•• Ir!1'1:, i 11-!11flffl 1! Ji,1;rl1' 11,:11'' JiJ ,i~l il 1a­ ~f,ar it ,,~i,,,I; t,i st~fi lilli r 1 r, ✓ - ............. . . . . . .,.,.,,. . . . . . . . . . . . pbe~ ...... • ----~ ..,...._ "I ban ~ mr IU - ... IJ!Aa' ......., r ata!f to be • the alert tw ~ 1a- lDto Ilia tnlll ~ "I aw tlaa lud­ fonnatl~ ta.lY mlpt 11U1ff OD~ ~ 11.pte ol a DO.a ' and lT II# matter, .. aid; ~ • Jdill bup,9' lie rnorted. OUAftft DClTUl&NT of ·• i • -- , Uae ~ eeae wbea a mun- _..... 1amee Bala. 1111 Soutll atll DeN4 IOIM of tba dllCI bad fallft Street, uw tbt'N diael tra....unt la a raYiM MIi' Avoawood: Ar. lrolll •Mt to welt. Two more were IIOrier ud ~apb•r wot b lpotted later, ~ b, a ltp&l• iba ICll9MI UMl folUld IIOtbiq. dlle, u aeta~•1:ua.rec1. Reeld•ata ol die dlltrW ul4 Ula J . L. Xardua, noo autoa 9tNet. dlles bad PIINd low and appeared Beaemer reportacl ...uaa "atruae to ba~ falll9 lD tlaa Ina. lllhW-- movlq tllrouah Uie 1k1 beBoben c.aaanc;_ Ap,Renld ~ .._.mer aa4'1ted Mouataln. eGP1 ~ ~ Ilia camera -r11e7 ,.... -••• - - ...... ., lie wbea tlaa o\aiaeta :,aaed o.er Ilia aald. • - ·-, --. re■lddae oa alll Strea and Blah• • • • laad A..-n-. Bia deftloped flla "'W1alrllu UIIOUI- were nDC)l'ted nvealed two rouacl. wldta •Potl oa aeea - Ifaa. Smhi, 1', lal 10th the black, elole tioaltller, one l•rt- Place, loath. and lllamn Pllaro, 15, er thaa tM otller. lie aald be laff GI 10tb A v • a a a, 8outb. "We Ula plctaN a 15-NeoDd expoaure. weren't loold.al for tum," .tbe bon nva otber penom_,.... with him reported. "We were ataad11 111 tile wbu tlaa plelure wu made. yard wben we uw rouD allver But wltn-■-- aren't needed anr Dathe• clrclllll around. THJ came lCJlllU' to l)e.ar out raporta of UM one at a Ume at flnt, tho die num­ atralll• demonatratloa. Too~ n., 1lier lDcnlfed. n-, Named to 10 penoU-Cood, aoUd dtbe ave over the moaatalJl. aeen the tblnp. In fact, they're • • • tblnlrl•I r,t eallblC Ula ahow out at At police beadquuten, Offlcer Jlunpr Bowl tonllbt, "Tba Dlao- E. E. MeNaal aald reporta ol the lllbt Opara." • dllea MIU at 1:10 p.m. aad CNNd about ao mlDat91 later, Scores Of People Report "Strem of• u;bt t1y1q • • r,. r - - ; - My-ious Discl, alow" ware reported . . bJ 11n. ~ ""lJ Hu. 11. Sockwell. ueo llu4ow Bnldenta of Eut Lake, uth- Greaa Aent. SIM la1d 1be atde, West &ad, Woodla'WJI and ~ lDto Mr y.,-4 u -,c,a u lbe Marci •mar reported ■eelnl the flylnl the a-.port on the radio. &be ucl cUaca or aaucara tut DiJbt. One dlae ber baabaad and tiff Mil'bbon aaw wu reported IND yesterday after- atx of the ~ ftJinl •~ low... aooe Offr die Warrior River. Th• Bbe utd th-, were tu ala of a aumber _.D at one time varied. "'810 Al TA■LI.I" N1M ol the dlael we.re - n by -i eallad to flDd out if rm CoDnla Murdocb, 512 South 10th cru.,,.. Gordon MJN, Court- "'1'lley -re 101>1 of lllht at UM aald·Mn. Baaemer Super-Hlab­ .-.MUld the aky," ahe re- way, wbo telapbened TM ~ ••• = .. r:r= • " - - tlua ~ --=~abeand.laaabud aD4 tMlr - - .... tbe ''balll of tin" u tbe7 pre­ ~ 17 over die Central Park A1r(Rlrt pared to 1et lDto ttaelr ear U"8L after a vlait with Mr. and Mn. °'1! realdent ol Bllll Lab. be• ' GordOD Buab at Brtptcm, t . tween t :IO and 10 tut lllCbt. She aa1d the flub u,hta. H. S. ...,_, Ull '8th Street. aald lie and Mlclabon uw "40 or IO" Upt n,ota Ill the ay, apparp~ ••• ,wbleb appeared a■ bellcoll l.lpta ~ over a blll, CUM .,~ _.__,..,_u.. _ _ _ _, , . . ~ Tbe Uptll would ea111e at lllhtninl ,peed and tbea .top dead it1ll and bani la tu U:.,1 the, aald. TbeD t.bay wowa dart off a,alD. eOm• retarDlDI lD tha cUrectloa ol a-mer and eome 1otu on. Som• I would e1rde. Othen would pau Neb other ud 1earce1Y avoid eollilloa. "TIiey were alloat a■ taro u 1D1 dlDlDC room table," .tie utd. bueball and traftled Ill a "blal curve from aouthWflt to aomlleaaf. The aaucen came at tatervala of about ftn NCODda. . ... e1l•,. Jji► 5 l.,,_"' ~~a ,,~~ ~ ii i1 it 111►1 lJi"" t= th r! U!i.~~~Mf.df.t!J~i • t:r•el 1 , .◄ .I ~111if i!i1-lfih"ii!il .i le ,S1:: !i 1, f,if ,' .. • ~11•11,1111~,r1ifJI Ii I-t r '~R'°i-1~---f:1,!PI: lilt lll~l~l tii'JjiJI,: p, :r:u' f ·'l;1li rm !i -!: ;;-} ;1;tl [rj=ith i In ~ i1 1:i ,. •.~!1irl! =It. :,,;, I .- . .. . .. . . . ~I ,.- I 1 5; ,_, --~I .. .l-1.. i l ! _,,..jrJ: sll , ,ja JI lana ~11.._~-1- -i~ ..ft l~ill~I "'i I (t ·1· 11;;• 1 l"I, -efi•·JI J !If SL 11•J I f-f fl~i 5 3 i 5ff•; I 1P, rr l ., a. J► 1 r ..s '\.- • ~ i-'I '= 11 = f iii l: - i1M ,iud&~ ,!it . ~,li1~i ·rhlll,,l t1G ~,~ihir' i:l!,.r1lu ~ n th~~ ~· "· ' &. •• -.. -• , .. • ., . \ RESTRICTED S-T-A-T-M-'E- -T I, Staff Sergeant Irn L. Livi~•ton, RA 1h li:;J 07?, Air ~oros, h ..ve a,,,,roxim,.tel;v- 250 """''-="11 f l y ~ time f\S "Oilot --nd Armor er Ou.nner have the fol loving t~tement to mA'lce {"Onct'!rning the 11.T>nearence of "1'lyin,v; D1 acs" in the Ticini ty of ~irminghrun, Aln.bama. At 204" hours, 6 July 1Cl47 • :hilo ! ·r-,s e"'tiDP' si.,~er ot my residence l\t 1354 Meedow Lane, Gre-?n Acres, Birmingham, U/'\bama, rrr::, next door nei.ghbor, 1-lr. 'Herman H. Sookvel 1 • c~llP.d for Me to come to th.e front ~oor the.t there w PrP cooe "J'l.yi~ 'T)iace" outside. Im.~ ediPt~ly I went out in thP front y .. r~ to observe the objects. The objects ~'One"red to th.e '<l'e11t of 'Birming'·e.m trAveUng in~ South .,~stern r•r~~t •on . They """'ll)eared to be n~~rorlmntely ?()()() fe~t abovi, the horizon t"t .. lu; d."!gree angle from 'flhere ! w.. s st9ni.,1v "' t n n un­ eatimated ~istAnce PY~Y~ The objects r'l")ne!'ll"ed to be ~,,nroxtm~tely t vo (?) feet in diameter , roun~ in ehA~e, "!)roduollag A ~im P,low of 11,-,bt rnd trpvnli~ at ~n est1mate1.aneed of five (5) to six (6) h.undr~d miles ner hour . The object• or obj~ct An"Oe· red to be trAveling in P definite ore rather thAn straight ~nd AB soon c~ one WPS out of ~ip,ht /'\nother woul d An~ear be~i d it, but not nlw,va in the s me -oath. ! q p w one th~t SPemed to come atr~i£ht u~ . The view of where it cl'tllle f r o~ w~s obstructed by~ nearby house; ~nd when 1t r"l'IChed the ltl t i tude of A'!>""'l"oximately 2000feet, it •tarted off in the •~e direction ~a tne oth~ra. I did not Pt any time see ADY more than one at the time and even though there could haTe been on _y o .e, 11\V -•~•n"~! belief 1• that there wore eeven (7) to ten (1~). 'l'he Discs were silent ,ind aTI'?eared to be col!J"Ooaed of e einr,le lir.bt. ~~~ -A.:..-.- ca~ Ir~ L. LiTingaton St...ff Serg eant, 1lA 14 153 972 Subscribed Pnc'I sworn to b,fore me this 7th ~,r:r of July 1q47. RESTRICTED •• . IDJIDTi Ln\er ot fl'aaad,w.1.. to a, a •➔- cawni. Mlenle 11Yiaioa, ATC, '°" '°''·· IIJ/8, Lolw Ial■a4, •• t. ln•llic....) (AfflllflOlla POil TD O<IIIAIDDD OIIIIW.t ~e.91,~ IIAllIOS C• MILLIR,. Capkia, .U.- Corpa, IIJ~, Inel.Upaoe. , 1 Iaola . Piaal lpt ot Siclniae, ,23 .1111 41 lat Ind. IA, ATLAN'r.IC DIVISitfi, ATC, FORT TOTrEH, L.I., HE\l YORK TO: 6 Aug 47 Commanding General, A.1r Tre.nsport Canmand, \1aab1ngton 25, D.c. AT'l!h Cbie! ot Start Forw.rded in accordance with inst ons outlined in 'fflX Cli-95, your Headquarters. ~ Incl: n/c REST, lCTED • S 8PIP1Dl:NTIA1s - GBNPIDErtTliL ... .. 9lgbting s Stranp interm:i.Uent i'laehes that ay tie in w1th •nying Diece•. 3. nae. 1 Hanlon Jlield I Stephemi.lle, tlewfNmdl and. 4. TiM s 034SZ, 23 J ~ 1947. s. Alti tude , Approxillatel,7 10,000 ffft high. 6. "8ather s High scattered corniU.onJ 'rlsib1.11ty betti,r than titteen (lS) miles. 7. 1 From South, heading ?n,1E (approxiantely 30° ) : High velocity; stated to be taater th~n a conventional airplane. , Heading 8. Speed 9. Description : The observers saw a light which at tirot appeared to be a ,hooting star or airplane. It appeared again, and a m1111ber ot intermittant fiashe• were seen tor a period of appro,:imately three (3) mi.nut.a. The nashea were reddish in color. Observers aa14 it was not a tailing star because it did not appear aa such; nor was it an airplane, l>ecause ~ s~wee too abrupt and the?"e was no noise ot a motor. 10. Reported by: Miss Patricia .Abbott, (Nffl'foundla'¥! 'National) Ooverment &aployee and Lt. Halllllakar, t:S.vigator and Public Relat­ ions Of'ticer. ll. General The intormants (noted in Par.10) were waltd.ni when they noticed a peculiar reddish light. Both Miss Ahl;\ctt and Lt. Hamaker stated that at first., they thought it was a 1'alli,ng atar, ·but it left no streak. It appeared again; they thought 1 i micbt be a plane flying at. n very high altitude. Alter obeerri..'lC i ta am:>9Uffl"a, they concluded, because or the silence (no hum ot mot.er) and abrupt darts ot the U g.lit., it, was defi nately not Ill\ Airplane . Neither Iii•• .Abbot.t nor l,t. Hammaker bwl seen anythlre; like i t be!Ol"e. · ~ ~ # ? ~-WILLIAM Ji• 00TH Captain, Air Corps, Intelligence Of'ficer. SBMFfBE~Th~t .. .. 1. Tnmlal\\ect llerwitJa, u laol.oauN 1, 2 ..S ,, an nMl. ·-.,oru ~ atp\hp ot •tq1ac ••o•r.- la -..r...n.., w1 nolaiv linet M fol.1-•• : P1Jlal -.,n ot 8SCll'illc • 2000S, 10 ~ 1947 • • • • • OOJOJ, 11 Jlaq 1947 • t • • • • 00151, 20 Jaq 1947 2. -.r...... m • • ~ . tlda bead.qaanen, 48\el 1217JQZ 4'111,- 1t4?, Npltias 9iall'tap ot •tqiac ,,..__. "7 CouWtle llllC Dflllr., a.tOlllllllallll ~ , a Onacl Palla, •..tCNDll.aDI, • ,11e .S,- -6 9 ~ 1947, att..W ber•i\11, u iaalNIIN 4, 1a •ipit 8'et • 1, oA 11119 •tctnbc "7 C.IIMble mRSlf. , POI TD r.cwtJDDD OIIIIML, • 41-11. ftM1 IP' of Hcla'tas, 10 h1 47 2e a ■ a I , 11 1111 47 Je 8 I ■ 8 , 20 J,al 47 4. ltc-4 MM••• • Coan DAIii! I I RESTRiCTED 88ftil'!IDl!l 11 IA:L , , . OONfU)ENTIAL -~ . , .. FINAL REPOOT OF SI GHTING •:- / ,. ( l. 2. ). Ck'g . Sighting Place 4. Time s 1388th A.AF' !U, llBC, ATLD', ATC . Harmon Field, Newfoundland. : F1.yi.ng :lisc or other ajrborne object. Approx six (6) miles SSW of Harmon Field. 20CI0/7., 10 July 1947 5. 6. ?• 8. 9. Altitude : 8- 10,000 ft. Weather : Clear, Scattered CUmulus 8 - 10, 000 ft. Heading : N?lE on horizontal course . Speed , : Very high velocity. Shape & Size: Circular like a 1'8eel, estimated to be s ame s i ze as a C-54 as s een f'ron 10, 000 ft. Translucent or Silvery, l eft ~ 1Jl uish Black tra il a pprox 10 . Color 15 miles l ong. ll. Fhotograpl.s: ?.r. Robert w. Leidy reported that he took two .!2) Kodachrome snap shots of the trail. 12. Reported By: ~T. John N. !'erhman, TWA. mechanic; '.r. John W• .toodruft, PAA rtechanic; and l.'r. Robert E. Letdy, PAA mechanic report,'9<1 the above facts to the I ntelligence Offic er on 15 July 1947. A Flash e port was T.tX ed t o : Action copy Conmandine General, Hq. ATC, Attn. Asst. Chief of Staff , Intelligence. I nfo copies: Comr-anding Generals Hq. ATLD and Hq. NBC 13. General t ~ister's t'erh.,nan, Vfoodruff, and Leidy ~ e enroute !'ran Stephenville Crossing to Harmon Field at the time of the sighting. 1:•r. Vloodruff was the first to sea th!t Disc, it a ppeared t o rent or split the clouds thru which it passed and le.ft a Eluish Black trail approx. fitteen (15 ) miles . l ong behind it. The trail was similar to the afterglmr or a powerful landing light or search light beam after it is suddenly switched off . lhe object maintained a straight and horizontal course 11ccording to Mr. Mer tunan and~ . Woodrutt, Mr. ·Leidy stated it a ppeared to be on a great curved course on a horizontal plane. The object disappeared into the Morth Northeast. ~ . Leidy sqs he took two (2 ) Kodachr0ffl9 Photographs or the trail. The film has been transmitted to the Asst. Chi ef of Staff, Intelligence, Newhundland BMe Command for processing. I . .. AM • CAPT. A. C. Intelligence Officer ·Rt:.STRiCTED COl'IFIBENml • .. . 1. Organisation: 1388th AA F RAse Unit AP0 864, ~/o Postmaster, New York, N.Y. 2. Sighting I Flying Dj sc or other airborne object. ). Place : Codroy, N~wroundland, 59co3 • W Long.; 1,7o50, N Lat. 4. Ti.Jae : OOJOZ hours, 11 July 1947. 5. Altitude i Appro"ld.mately 6.000 feet . 6. Wellther . Clear; at dusk. 1. Headi1'g . From northwest heading eastward. a. Speed . Very hieh velocity. 9. ShAre & Stze: 10. Color : 11. Reported by~ Disc shat>eli; was reported as being the she of a barrel-head, ~inner-plate arvt. ~ize of a plane that is flyL~g high. The trail i a ve t he whole object the appearance of a cone. Flame color ed with a trail of a lighter name ~nlor. Mr. John Legge, Mr. lb. Ev&ns and Albert Samm.9 of Codroy, N~wfoundland. 12. General , Mr. Legge and Mr. Evans were standing 011tside Mr. Legge 's store when they both sighted the o bj ec+.. Both "len stated t hat the d i sc was very bright with an after- r,1.ow which made the object look like a cone. It was a very clear night. In s!)ite of the high velocity of the fiyin g object, they said they ~ould not possibly have mistaken it for a plane or a r ~lling star. Beside s the two Men, the object ffllS sighted by Albert Sam:ns; he rP-portert what he had seen t.o his mother. Mrs. Samms stated t hat Albert was in no way a larmed about it, he w~s alor.e and on hi s way hC1mo when he sighted it, arxl watched it llhile it wae in s i ~t . '-ll)ert was quite c onvinced fran the color and behaviour of the object th at it was not a plane, but de!'inately sa:ie !'lytng objPJct. The inforinant, Vr. Legce, is believed to be reliable . H'i is ·a man of approxim11.tely .forty; has had c onsiderable experience as f oreman ot B•1chan3 l!ir,e, Newfoundland, where he was in charc c of three hundt-ed m~n. During the war, Mr. Legee was si mamber of a civilian volunteer Air D-,uction Corps. With that >, c kg:round, Vr. Legge stAted that he felt sure thlit the object he had seen was eorne-/ thing new which he had never seen before. v Final Report of Si(1lt ing General cont'd , ~lbert Sann• 1s a t w~l•~ year old boy . He was alone when he saw the fiying objer.t, he wa::: very denr,1 te il1t1.t ·, e no.ti never seen anything 1 i\r.e it bef r-re. Hi e mot.her, Mre . Semnu,, ia the Pret Mistre s s ot thi- t ~wn, and after hee.rinr; Al bert' :: d•er:ri~tion, felt that it antnrered to the deec..iption of a •Flying Disc" . Ur . Legge reported h i s -.ight in~ shortly afterw&rd s to Mrs. S&IT"Tls b .. ,. .,, se hP was sure it shoiild be IT'&de known to her in order th11t tt i!- i ncident nrl ght be r ep,,rteri ~· t.clegram t!fflle<\:1 at,-,~ . There wa~ one other sight,~ c repo rt.~ from A 11 vqr War d en at South Br ancl- . The !!\an ~0•1ld not be con­ t ,1,c t,,,ct at time or inter view,. with other partiea. ~owev~r, a secor,d-hand rlescrlption or his ,nghting WA!' obt'll n811, and it a greed with th e siv}ltings at Codrey. ] I lnU,IAl,I H. Sl!ITH Captain, Air Cor ps , Intelligenr.• 0 ficer . eaNFIDENTfAL FitlAL REPcm' OF SIGHTING 1. Organization: 1J88th AAF Bass Unit APO 864, c/o Pos t."118ster, N~ York, N.I. 2. Sighting Plying Disc or other Air borne Obj ect. J. Pl&ee s On bo&rd Steamship ltBUROec>" enroute from Sydney, Mova Scotia to Port &CY Basque~, Pfewtomdland, ahout one hour out h-o:n Sydr-~. 4. : OOlSZ 20 July 19u7. TiM s. Alttt,ude • JOO otr t.tte h,.,rbori e.t an est!.,.ated quart, • mile range. 6. Weather s Cl.ear am dark. 7. Heading s lfNB (J(1-) East, ,:,f True Horth) on hor1Mntal plane . a. Speed 1 H!gn nlocit7, stated to be teeter than a tr!lc~r bull -,t . 9. Descrip+,ion s • 10 . Reported by: OlserYers did. not see u,e o-.,je~t, thf!tY saw 1 te n.ashes am all ~our t'hservers agref:li there W1tre rour (h) or fiT"' (S) nashP~ approxi-nately one (1) secon:' apart arrl ~uidistant. 'nle tlAshes were said to be a1lnry to reddish i n eolo~, an~ were described. by two ob~erv9rs to he like t.hoee or a F!rs Fly ,:,nl_y larger and at. ,:,q-.tal intervals, an~ did not look like a sh~ot!n~ star or airpl&M . lfessrs Maitlluxi, L11.rldn, Do~s and H•ilton ot Hamilton, Metcalfe and Kansas City Brfdg9 Companies wfiich concern i• doing the c-mstructiOD at Haraon '1.eld. 11. General s Tt\e tour gentlemen (noted in Par.lo) and Capta.1.n Gullage, Mae♦,er ot thP "Burgeo•, were standing on the starboard deck, and •• the Captain was trying t 'J Jescribe a pt"erloua Bighting, he ■aw the tla ■hes; the other tour gentlemen al.so eaw th• "~ deacrib4td her91n, and believed that it ,ras not a aeteorite or airplane N9C&UH ot its ■peed, color, and ev.,~ spaced discharge, or nashes. Captain Gullage to1d the tour e"lntl....n that he h'ld Hat t h~ same thing at approxima tely the SUl't time and location (ehlp'• position) on the eTening ot 15 Jlil.y 1947, except at that tt,.,.,, the object or tlallhee were tra•elin~ tast er and frequently lhangin~ enurae (he ■aid it chang-1 cour■e ahruptl7 sevf.rnl times) and was headed genera lly to the - CUNFIBEN I~Al Fi.Tl<.). ReP<?r~ of Si ghting: Genoral c ont' d , s&"W. The Captain also told the four gentlP"Uen th=. t he 110 ~ willi ng tr, make a complet~ report if the infor mation !s desired for official purposes. -;,f~,?q. , ' - ? .; • lri.LLIAll R. SMITH Captain, Air Corps Intelligence Officer. . ._ ..._ •. 11.u. lsafl *·. . _ ...,.,••:•. ·- ~ .. Pl.I . . . 1' "'- 19'7, ,,_ .. lad. . ,., . . . .~ ona.... . . .. ... ,.. ... - ., ,.. - ...,s.. · - - ..............,,... 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It was n't an air0plan e on fi re bec ause it wo uld have fallen in the ~ater . It ~as a niee elear night, no e l ouds, it ~as jus t getting dark . I would say it was tra•eling at the rate of a shooting star but mueh •loser. I'd es:y r ~ugbly at 6, 000 feet. It was visibl e fo r about fifteeD (15 ) seoonds. It •~e from the North West beadin g East~ard . The oirole looked to be about the s ize of a barrel head, and th~ trail behind looked to be about f ifteen (16) feet long. ~he trai l behind the dis• made the ~bo l e objec t look l ike a eone. Another thi ng that makes me feel sure i t wa~n• t a- shooting atar is: a shoot i ng s tar usually lea~es a temporary streak , this objeot I saw left no streak only the one that appeared to tra vel behind the circle wbieh looke d like an after-glow . The oirele was a bright re d , nearest I could des­ eribe it ~ould be t he e olor o~ a flame, the after-glow(eone- s haped) waa a £sint er shade. What I s aw las t Thursday night resemble d a shooting star in no way ~hatsoe•er. There was only one. (J JOHN P. Witness: ;'2. ..,.._,, , RES i h :C11-__o , .,...-vv----L Iv--- -- . •. ,. e ESTF<iCTED • f- STATEMENT OJ MR. WM. EVANS, CORDROY'' ?fEWP'OUNDLABD. TAKEN BT MERCEDES BURKE OF THE INTELLIGEBOE OFFIOEi HARMOB FIELD, •n­ FOUBDLAND. 17 Jul! 1947 • At approxi■ately 10 •'•look in the eTentnc of 10 July 1947, I was standing eut s i de Kr. Legga's store tal king with him. W• both aaw this thine dash aeroae the elq. I oouldn't be aoeurate about the direotiona. If it was a shooting sta r , I'd neYer seen one as large befor•• and it waa 1112eh brighter than an,thing I'Ye ever aeen i n the sq. It looke d t o be a r ound object , I eou.ldn't say it was anything e lse but round; it •had a tail on it wbieh ahowed yellowish, but not as bright a s the oirele which app eared and neares t I could des oribe it would be sort of red a nd yellow. The streak behind, I would aa7, was little oTer a yard long; the e irele looked t• be about the si&e •fa larce dinner plate. It went so fast, it was hardly 1o s ight before it disappeared. I eoul d nGt giYe any idea of t he height; all I • s.n say is it ~as muo h elos er than a s hooting st ar. and travelling at a great spee d . Wbate~er it was it wa s flying through the air; it wasn 't jus t , a streak aoro s e the sq . To me it was n't in any way like a shooting star, and I am sure it was n't an airoplane. I •alled it a "FLYING SAUCER" bee auee it seeme d exaotly lik e what we had b een hearing ,eo mueh about on the radi o . Witness: J. ~ ' , Witneoa : t/1/~ ~ - - - - A t-J ~- .. STATEME:fT OF ALBERT SA.1111S , CORDhOY, !U.. .!~Ou!LLA.ND. TAR~ .BY ME.RC.El.lES BURKE OF TRr! INTELLI GElW2 OFFICE, Hnd1Oll F'I .b:LD NE~ J'OUDLA.BD. 17 July 1~947 . Last Thursday night I was out by our hous e, I happ e ned to look up and saw •hat I thought was an airoplane. It was f l y i ng at the height of a plane t hat is flying high. The n I t hou g ht it leoke d s trange f or an airoplsne, be~aus e it was all lit up ao bright, pla.nea do hav e a light or t wo. but this thi ng was Ter7 bright - sort of a bright reddish yellow . I saw it only f or a miAute because it was travel l ing at a teriff i• peed . It shot out of sight so quiokly I thought i t s trange i f it fia e 8Jl airop ­ lane. TllU, I remembe r e d "r.hat I'd been hearing about " .r1l,JI ND SAUCERS" I ran in a nd told my mother. . .. J , l lb an, I .... Witness: f: itnese: ' t,..). , ~ ~ J Albert ruot. ed in and t ) l • at fi r t t:.f" thouri:nt 1 t we ce a inu t thie th i :, on a 1 r fl- t ne hut tr:: en h,-'d ju Ht ~,.en . ne ret:',P.~,ber~d bav in ~ hea r ~d a b out " r'LYI NG , AUC~hS " and he thon~nt that's wh,-t i t must haT,- o~ ~n. I 1 ue,tion~d him: he eoid it c ou ld n't bnT~ been a pl ane betBuee a PlEnft ~ou ) on' t shoot down }jve tn~t did , besid e s it ~as t oo "lit up" Mr. Le~~e rep ~rted tbft ee~e thing to me in order tbe.t I ~• iht rep n rt s a me to St. J~h•'a in th~ morh : n g. r RI ... . . . NEWFOUNDLAND CONSTABULARY • STATION Grazd Falla t DATE Jw.y l3t.h. 1.947 • , SUBJECT Rea- St.ran.• obJecta aeen tl.,yina over Gram Falla on n16iht. ot July 9t.b. at. approx. u, l§ •94 AetP, Sira I reapect.1'\ll.l.r N vort tor 1our ~oraat.lon that, on ·ednea4a¥ ni&ht.1 the 9t.b. inat.e I UT1Ye4 boae troa du\y at. approx. ll..30. tJS)oD UTiYal at. boa• I Joined my wit•, m¥ mot.her-in-law and Mr. John Jae.Iman a reaident ot s t.. John'• and tr1e;".l ot tJie t•il.r, who were oitt.!nB on the tront. atepa ot U. bouae. I wu a aked b' ,q wit• U I bad aun t.he •t1¥1Da aauaera" I t.boU& t ah• waa Jokina and replied that. I ba4 •••n nothiDt, tlyln£. Jacban and rq aot.ber­ in-law then told •• that th•1 bad r eally •••n tour obJ eota­ tl¥1D& 1D an eaaterl,y direction Juat. before l ani•e4• I aaked t.hea to deacriN what. t.h•1 bad •••n• JacblaD aaicl t.bat tour rou.n4 abaped ti&u.r•• bud paaaecl oyerhead at a terrific apeed and nre tl,y~ aide bt •tde. On l.ook~ a)Q'warda qain rq wile, J ackllall 1 and myaelt1• __ • •• a obJect. which I would deaorille aa bein& a hug• J•'-'-r tlah tlaab acroaa t.he the •Ir¥• It. wollld M '1U.ic.u\. \0 determine it.a helgbt .ind apeed owina \o t.be brief period it waa Yiaible• .1l. 1 a colour alao would be bard \o aa_, 1 but. there a...ed t.o be pboapborua ~lo• ,ltou\ it. 9 lt waa round 1D abape and a bout. th• a1s• of a barrel bea41 1 t appeare4 to M fl.¥~ 1n a rock~ aot.ion. Thia air 1 ia about. a ll I can• 1 a bout. t.he matt.er , .. cont.inued to oaan th• • kt tor a bout.• halt bcNr but. no • ~ of t.hea were •••n ~•in. ~ • ~ Conat.abl•• ,C'-,1 , , Q ~ tJ ~~ GftDIPalia, DAT& JuJ.¥ Ja\11. i9-&7. , Pr011 detailed atud7 ot report.a aeleowcl tor their iapreaaion ot veracity and reliability, aenral oonoluaiona bave been tormed, . (a) ThJ.s •tlying saucer" a1 tuation 1a not all imaginArl or seeing too 11Uch in soae nat~ phellOllenon. Somtbing is really tlyina around. - • (b) lAok ot topside inquiries, when compared to the prompt and deaanding inquiries that have originat.d topside upon toraei- events, give acre than ordinary weight to tbe p6eaibilit7 that this ia a d011teatic project, about which the President, ~to. lmow. (a) Whateftl" the objeota are, this much can be said of their physical appearance, 1. Tbe s'lll"taoe of these object.a 1a •tallio, indicating a metal.lie akin, at least. 2. When a trail 1a obeened, it 1a lightl7 colored, a Blue-Brown base, that 1a aillilar to a rocket engine•a exhaust. Contrary to a rocket ot the solid type, one obeervation i!ldioates that the tuel ~ be throttled. which would i!ldicate a liquid rocket engine. J. As to shape, all obeervationa state thut the object 1a cireular or at leaat elliptical, flat on the bott011 and slightl.7 domed on the top. Tbe a11e estimates place it somewhere near the size ot a C-54 or a Coastellation. 4. Soae reporta describe two tabs, located at the rear and syaet.rical about the Xli:m axis ot flight motion. 5. Plights han been reported, trom three to nine of them, tlying goocl·formation on each other, with speeds alfllya above JOO knot,e. 6. The discs oscillate laterill7 while flying along, which could be snaking. ,, ✓ CONFIDENTIAL HEADQUARTERS FOURTH AIR FORCE Ottioe or the Ass i stant Chi ef or Start, A- 2 Intdl1ge noe "HAnil t on Fiel d, Ca lifornia 4AFDA 353 .6/1208- I SUBJECT: TO: 25 August 1947 I nveat i iation of Fl ying Disc . Headquarters, Army Air fo rces , AC of AS- 2 ATTE11TIO.r: as hin(ton 25 , D. C. 1. The attached true copy of the lette r or • F. " • Johnson of Po rtland , Ore gon , we.1 r e ceived by this off icer 22 Auf'Ust 1947. \ !:r. 2 . Your attention i s invited to t he si milRri ty of st at ement by Johnson and ·.:r . Arno ld. 3. Thia l otter is boinr r eferred thi a date t o t he Spec i a l Agent I n Char r;o , F~I , San 1-'rancisco , tor any 1nvest1get1on thev may care t o make . ~ l Incl : Cy or ltr f r F. 1 . John son , 4- ~ ( / - ~ DONALD L. SPRIU Lt . Co lone l, r.sc AC of S, A- 2 (in du:,) CONFIDENTIAL I CONFIDENTIAL PORTLAND, OREGON , August 20th 1947 Lt. Col. Donald L. Springer , Assistant Staff Sir . Saw in the port land paper a short time a go in r egar ds to an article in regards to the so cal led flying disc having any basis of tact. I can say am a prospector and was in the t.! t Adams district on June 24th the day Kennet Arnold or Boise Idaho claims he saw a formation of flying disc. Andi saw the same flyin h objects at about the same time. Having a telescope with me at the time 1 can asur e you they are real and noting like them I ever saw before they did not oaas verry high over where I was standing at the the time, pl obl y 1000 ft . they were Round about 30 foot in dimater tapering sharply to a point in the head end in an oval shape. with a bright top surface. I did not hear any noise as you would from a plane. ilut there was an object in the tail end looked like a big hand of a clock shifting fro~ side to side li~e a big magenet. 'f,iere speed as far as i know seemed to be gr eater than onything I ever saw . 1's~ veiw I got of the objects t hey were standing on edge Banki ng in a Cloud. Yours Respectfully /s/ F. H. Johnson 106 ?:o. \'fest la t Ave Port land, Oregon A TRUE COPY: \ \ CONFIDENTIAL .. CONFIDENTIAL PORl'LAiID, O'lSOvN 30,JuJ.¥ l.947 . un 30 July 19u7 l!.r .tdehnrn ttan.1dn, 83u il. li . Siq)son Str.t, Por.tland, Oregon m s inten ewed by this agent and s tated in substance as follows : • l(y' name is R:1.charo. Rankin. I arn47 yearo ol.d and have !town since I i':'3S nineteen years old. I t.1.nst soloed in m a1:r cr:t.tt in 1919. I hlve 1'1.own over all the western parts of the United st& es many t.ilm!s 8.lld have capped all or \.ho ,, ster n ~ of the Unite l States during the years before the la.to war for the US Forest Service. I m:i .tam.liar with almost every part o! the -r.cs tarn United States. During a great part ot re:, life I have dcne stunt flying for air shows a.nd various other types of aeronautical. e.:ichibit1ons. MY' brothor was 11Tex11 Rankin who was quite well known in both c1V1llan and 1'1.l.1taJ;r f~ng circles r or maey yea.rs before his death and during the late 11ar ran t housands of nyln.; cadets through primary training school.a ormod and oper­ aMd by h1r.l. To Jate I lnve acco:upl.i.shed 7000 hours in tho air as pilot of both civilian and !.:il.i.t.aey aircra.rt. I a:i 1'911. acquainted Tri.th most articles that one -woul d seo in the air o.nd I feel that I an well qualified to say when I see :irticles flylng through the air, although I \TOuld not attempt to say that I ac infallable and state thD.t I could definitely identify every , object that might be nying through th:S air. The following 1s . an account of what I sa-., on 1h June 1947 frcc the :,or~ or my home at 1 -0. SOllth •u• st, Bakersfield, ca.lit ornia. ~t appro:d.motely 1200 no.:in on the lu of June I was ly1.ne in ~he .front yard 0£ rx:J hoce . Ibero '"'3S a lad ncminc t he la-m at tro tl:::le . I l ooi::c up into t he sky and saw ten art:.cles fiylnc fran tte South to th Hort\ at what I -ould ju~ c to be 6500 rt. ':'l-c obje c ts were fiyins ~ approx:1.rl3toly T1h.._'lt I r.oul::1 jud('.;e to be 350 ;o.l.e,; per hoar . A.S I lu '\l? s tated b fore , I h.:lve t~one er.ti.te a lot of r:l7ip work for t he OS Forest service . : 4 :;tinctly remember t..'l\ot -it the t ~ I sa,.. ho arti cles I mcn~1oncrt !.t to t.ho la l who ~ -::iom.ne the ]ay;n at tho time . I tol l t1•: l.."l< that the object3 were in alt probab:llty some sort of A;J:-rJy or !:avy test plnnc s i'ro., the ne ~°b'J test cantors on tho "'eserts o~ Southern Cal..if'omia. ::aving quito a kncr.vlcdce o! aircraft in :eneral I o.tte:-,pte 1 to c~ lain to the l..a l r:10 11:.n.:; th'? J....;m th.:t. thl obj t s .-:ere irob ab~ on s cne sort of tra.:.n.:.nr: ':'\l ,3.'..o:'l fer either t.he Ar11y or ?!avy. lid not cive the s r;htcst • thoucht to aeyt•lint; but t h:it t he At th~... tw object a m?re so,e .,or or te ::;t :hip f or th e ~rrncnt ..ervices . ~e ol)';,..ct... reser.m eii the pictures that I haw seen of ,.ho .::F5U-11 t.he o =.;. llerl 11Fly-.i.nc ?lap). ck Clfjax that Uv- ··.avy : - t cs• .:.J'\S• .\ fte r :..he objec t-s di sap e.:irad I p roce"'d.. i,to the houst. "'.1\1 ·~, ny noon '"lC'l •••t nr.roxlr-..ntely lLlS ! . nt back into the • ard to .,it .md lie in '..h -.? sh~1e . At t his timo tho obj~ t.s ro­ ap:'IC".U'el .:;o:~ rro-:a S.Jrth to South, al t'1ou.=·1 t '1is tioc th~r ~ ~!'o only s even o£. "'.re articles. '\'fh~n I firs t ~'\- the ott.ct nal •,on objects :.he:, , re rJ.yi.J\: in a •vn f'ornation W' t}l one o :)ct s e.c,.. inc1y star-..,li"!: in the rear or t hr f or: t.:.on. W'-.!?~ t~ ot:e :: ~.. a ?r-Cr:ied :e secon:i -1.oe ti,ey were t.:.11 ·n thn rtV fa-11n l UCl -ilt''OU::h there r.as onl:, seven c:! the ject '\..., t · -r ~ • .:me . I re~f'!:'."bc:- ± t hi::. t ime that tol1. t 1c ad, U'\ o m s ::;till o r ·.::tn.,. on tlc lar.n, tll8t ~b.'.l',~ ~~.rce of tho objc cts ha1 ce ded b::.ck t,o thfl.i!" b.? o on ~ rt· ffcrcnt course . actually • '•"'!U:}.t t'1_-. t, t~ "'l'a:J · " C.:l e, ·"vlt too ot er •.hroe object.,. hdi3 . ,rob~ly con'! - c'• ~,, hd r b.., -c on the other "iie of tho n~t:l • s !'ro:l 3aker -!i el ~. .. , :. or o 1 -i..,cr .,.,:, en I read o :...r ·en e ll' .lr.10 c ~ -.lnc that ho h.i.l seen artic,.os fl:,in!: t,hrou,ch t.h a:r o"1Cr t.h.. ~ :. ~·e " 0.1!'\~itw ~ I r..U.Md tba.t the aniGJ/N that I saw ~ tr obah=tle .... ,._,• • I •s still r.lllotant. to •ntS. tld.• to ~ Wil#nc that would pib_ab~ eq t.-t. I was Ol'U7• After eoaltae I llellticmid tm 1act to the edltor d t.bl fl()Ngonian•, a Port~ Ol"egon hWapllpi!I•-• At W.a t.1ae I in Portland tor tie 1"'a&i.nder of tale .._r. The nnlts t1 U. oormn,•U. . with the editor ot ·tiae paper i1 p11t. tort.al in t.be ~ - - ~ &rt.iol.e. . I fully' re~• that 11111 1s a broad atateme~~1n view ~ Eot; th& there !as been a, aach publioity t t e ,at. forth ln ftrlOll.9 papen or the count.rr. I aa d a , ~ ll1nt in eT.-y respect am I a■ t! corm.need tb&t ta U"t4oles I saw aw actually .... sort, ot ~ wbinas al.though I cannot ..,- from wblre tbq came or to 1b ere thq wn loinc• I say what. I lan aid with no idea ot publiait)r or J)ff9onal gata. SIG!l E D ~ Portland.1 Oregon 30 .,~ 1947 ' Pilot Recalls- , f -THl :-~ -r O _NIA.Jf _ ,Tit _. _ U _ B&U>_I~":' A~----'--: -~.,;._'1..:..:.. 14'_~,.:...'. Seeing Discs • Diclc Rankin Tells . Of Odd Aircraft More reports ol "flyln& flap, jacka" turned 11p Wedllesday, one -from no le.a than Dick Rankin, brother of the late Tex Rankin, and blmlelf an expe­ rienced pilot of more than. 7000 boun' tlyln& time. Rankin, who i.w recovering from an old back injury r~ celved in an automobile acci­ dfflt, came to PorUand over the week end to apend the 11um ­ mer. He saw the "allver ca u­ cers" over Bakerlfield, Cal., J u ne 23, while lying on the l awn run batblns, he tol d Th~ Oregon ian. "I hesitated to 1, y much about them," R.lnkl.n ·aald, " un• t1l I noticed all the hulJabaloo in th e papers. I punled over their 1tran1e ahape tor a while arid JinaUy concluded~bat they were the navy's new- Xl'SU-1 flying flapjackl!, wblch Ille thin and ro u nd , with twin propellers and ,tubby tail." Oaly Oaa XFIU-1 Built 1 (The navy and the manufac, turer have announced officia l• 1 Jy tha t only one such machine wu built and that It never left Connecticut. "ThHe planes were flying hl&h, maybe 9000 feet, and fa ir • Jy fut, about 300 or 400 mile• an hour. I first counted ten of them In formation , iolng north. Abou t 2:15 P . M. UM!y r eturned on the rever,ie course, headed 110uth. But there were only sev• en In the formation. • "They were not weav in.c or bobbln,c tn formaUon I couTd n 't make o ut the number or loca• tlon o f their propellera and couJtln't d btlngulth any w in.«• or tall. They appeafed almowt round. They looked li ke pie- 1 lures of the na~•• ftylna flap. jack," Rankin 1ald. R.ankJn, who plans to ,rpenrt the aum mer her, at 8i44 N . E. Simpson street, h1 now able to re.um" a little fl ying for fun , but not comme rcially. he 11ald. He now operate1 a 1trln1 of autG rourta. ,rpendln,c h l1 win• lffl at P•lm Springs. I •, I', " T'. iE ORBGO: :u.; 11 3 Ju l y H ,,. 7 Por tland , Or e t; oc . . . . • .., ....... y· • . 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OIi 1 Ju, 1947, Lt. • Ul1• O. •atuav, USII, 19S803, P-eo sw.-, .nu n.w, Cblodl••, Art.. . ., ... u ~ "7 thie A&mt., Md at.at.eel ill abstanee1 Tba\ en 30 J\IM 1947, at about. 0910, UST, be wu tlJ'1.QI at. 25,000 IN\ a.. Grand Cayan, Ari•na, ill a p.eo ~ dftnft. lie at.at.eel \hat he aa blladlftc - t h t.Ollarda liUH Pield, Arbona, wh• h• ea t.. round objeeta pi.ng at. inconcelftbl• 8JI•••, .trd.ab' . . . . H• tllll'Ula et&t..cl that h1I reacUOAI 'NN to tarn • q hoa th• obJeet.e. Re fvth• a\&W t.bat. one ot tba anlde• Utlable GbJene toU~ecl the Mht r •eoondl apan. Re tvtMr 1taW \.bat dm to the spNd ot t.b• objeot.a, be tould OGlT ... that. Ulq ...,. Cllrow.u, and t.b& \ \hq WN poeaibl• lJcht. ~ in -,...• fte tu\bel' at.aw thn 1, wu h1I optruon t.bat t.be obJ.ota .... • ~ • - ten 1a cl1ae'-• Ill ooncla1on, be et.ated U.t t.h• obJff\a ~ ha~JIS'Ol:Mlbl.7 hlt, t.bt O'GIUd a ppJ"Old.aatel.7 t.•~r1•• llll• eovtib ot t.bt Soat.h a.ta ot ONld ~ . Arisoaa. AQQfTtS ROT!S a L\ ll.Ol.&7 Pft h i • pc,aMDt, a4dNiN ua W.AJ.T.c., Point. lhp, Pon Humae, C&U.t. 2. OD 1 4'1117 19411 Capt.&la llalAola O. Aaet.~, ~ , Inauuew, Siael-• -1ne, 1llhnr '1.-W, ChandlAP 1 Arhona, -.. 1nl...-d.... '-7 lb.la Aa•t. and a\ated in . u ~ • • ftat bJ.• ~ , lat. L\ s. B. Alllat.ran&, atat.lomd at ~ 10th AM', boob u F, 'feaa bad Nla\ed to h1a tu\ be ... a fonlllt.ion ~ unexplaSl\able •Jeota iii tb• 1J.dll1'7 ot Lake Mud, ...,. Ca~aiA Anaatr cmg, llll'\hn at.at.cl \bat hi• ~ at.aw Ule 0'3eo\a . . . beecU.Qc oath, an:l ..-. at. appNJd.a\&lT 10,000 tNt. alt.ltda. w ... Nl!ft'S NO'fLCJ a C.4dn AIIIA~ oe..W not. ll•• \eo m1b t.1o11 Lt.. 1. B. Al'IIIIWen& be · OODt.Mled . , Rq, lOt.b A>,, BIWb Field, Texu tor tU'\hlr intemaUon. OIi UM HJM\a \Mt. hi a b10tb• had aeen. u ., \ L,- C. A.1.cb'leh, ~pMS.al Aps,. Clc-AJ.'I, J'1'l9C THI IS A ftlUI (X)Pf I. C.Z• i,;.C~'O ,vl,,. . v \l: ,: • Un1dent.U1aD1- Obzot..a. D 333.5 ID (16 Jui ,.7) .J..•t Ind. HQ lti.t.cnel 1iald, New i l J l TO: m P B R S E COMIW(D, Y o r! C , ~ J \ l. J . . Y 19/+7 Ccmundi.Qg General, Arwv 1.ir IPorce•, lfaahingt,on 25, D. 1 '!'TM: l. . c. >J:.I AS-2. Fcrwardea tor your information and utilization. FOR TH! CCIOWIDING Gl".N!RAt: - ~ --c.-7 . ) -. • H. S)(lffl In.to c7: CG, AMC, Wright l'ld, Da_rton, o. )l' . Colonel, GSC ~ ~ Y-L- n ,, - C//,-; ~ • ""- • f"v A.Ht Chi.et ot Statt-IA~U. ~ .. , I Jf ., f 1 HEAD Q UARTERS TENTH AIR F'ORCE BROOKS r' l £L~, SAN ANl"ONIO , TEXAS Cff 1ce o f tho Ass is tao.t ..:hief' of Staff , A-2 IN AEP LY A E ,- £ A DC 333 •5 TO : 16 .Ju l :: 1$47 SUJJEC T: lnidentifia lle Gbjec t s TC : Com1rs.ndin~ Genera l :, i r Do fv r.s e Coru,"ll nd , ...i tcho l !- ie ld , ::o,·. Yor k AT'rr;: rtSS t Chief of : taff , 1 . Ii.closed he r e·:,it l for yt-ur i nf'or ri..- ition is icvectio,ti or. re l a t i v e t o Unidentifia '.. lc ( b~ octs \\hi c h •uas i.nitL, ted at !.t:.'l.c!. ua r te r :; , .: lyinc D1Y1sion , Ai r fri:. inir,{; Conna.r.d , Rand o l rh . ield , Tex.as . 'i'his Offi ce a.c:. isted , ns notod in Inc lost.r e ~ , by c or.ir, leti nL a. :emor a.ndum ror the < f fic e r in Chn r;;e • 2 . 1:0 f u_r the r n.ct: or. is c ente r. platC;d b: t i--.i!; :.ee.r' q· ..,, r ~or z c o ncor nine; invest i e;atlon of t r.i s iuc icent . 2 Inc l s : 1. :~CI C dtd 7 Jub 47 2 . ltr, ~ATC , w7 1 I nd a nd 1 I nc 1 , :'( I C , d td l ~ Ju l~· 1':47 I l JUl .... 11-" -.: ~ All if '/ 7 /f~J r .. ·, 7 4 73 203e llagnolia Aw.e. , Loa A!!gelea 7, <Jalif. Auguat ~ 194~ D'i.rect.or of Mi 11'tary Intallegeno•, llar ~partma.nt, Waahington. 25, D..C. IJ;ear Sir:.. On SUnday a!tarnoon, July the Sixth, I observed something very strange ; 1 t 1a related. - - at least ill my own min~ w1 th t he phenomena of t he •Fabulow, J':3.ying ~uceraf and I cannot report on thia second phuaomena, without speaking or the first. As I do ~ot wish to be considered the victim ot mass p ■ychology, a crGok,-pot or-visionary, it is rather har d !or me to m....k e thi s report. I am doi ng it beoause I oonsider it my duty. A neirapaper article spoke ot the Bureau of standa rds as •Havi ng a fi nger in the pie• in many experiments so not knowing whore to write or who to write t o l wrote to the Bureau , and Ur. Hug h L. Dryd , eh has suggested t hat you were the one to r eport to . I had been amused at accounts ot the• !lying saucers•. ~eryone was talking, laughing and joking about thema nd I di d not -believe in them~ l)le Hollywood T,arzana BU■ wa s par ked a t the Terzana end of the line and the driver wa s busy making out his .reports preparatory to malti ng th• return trip. / I wa s the only one in t he bus and I sat i n the middle or the side next to v~ntura . ~o the bus was parked nort h ~nd south~ As I looked to my rig ht , a •Saucer appeared out ot nowhe re~appar­ ently out ot nowhere and it was followed by several others; they were of uniform size and spaoed a t :tegular intervals and it seemed as 1! they turned a c9rner from the ~e s t and they rolled along at g rea t speedto the Nort hward and parXa.llel toVentura Boulev~rd. Tl As soon a s I becameconvinced that what f saw was not an i llusi on but wha t every one wa s talki ng about I ~egan to s tudy them and it was right t hen that my eyas seemed to be drawn to this other phenoma in t he air between me and the • ~ ucers". ~hat I saw waa mi lky whit• rays in the sunlight t.hat seemed to aria crosa like the search lights do at bight ; it was nothing like the aun shining on some bright ob j ect tor the rays were not spa ced and they were not so c.lose together and t hey e ris c ross ed. However, they did seem to converge t owa rd a center but they d.id no t ~eet t here. I rr ~hi ■ center - - a radioua or about eigh~een i nches it seemed trom~r ea t, t here were spinning objects l! some red substance J ,.., -.. 2 a bout t he c ol or or t he semi- ~reci ous stone Oomelia n. t hese fra.gn.e nta ,·:e:-e sha rp a nd irregul a r a nd s hi ng . !'hey were flying about as if f l yi r.g to a magnet . T~is w~s momentar y a nd I l ooked to s ee i f t r.e •sauc e r s• were s ti ll t here. ·I saw one or two but t he s ace thi ng 'happened aga i n 3nd 1 s a w t he second phenomena to r a s e c ond. By t his ti me t he "sauce r s were ou t or s ight . •; 11 t r:.e w~y hoipe I wa s tryi rig t o f i nd sooe logical e.xplane. t ion fo r the "Sa ucera• bu t my c ind kept revert ing to t he second phenomena and a s I dwelt on it I coul d no t help surmising it perhaps t hese r a ys I s aw di d no t c ome out or the red f ragmenta that \,e re spinni ng i n t he vorte.s. I ooul dnt hel p wonderi ng i t t his s u bst ance had beeh c : ot from the • sa ucor s a s t heyt urned t he cor ner trou t ~e we st on ~heir way to the ~or th/. As our a r r:.:, ·.ould not be s ho ti ::- 1J- dly r ay s ove r t owa rd :i ve ry croweded hi g ~way a ncl. a s t hi s \Thole t hi l'\; s eems fant a stic to say t he l east , I t hought I ho.d be tte r t rus t s ome o,1es Jud.i;eae nt who r eal ly knows wha t is g oing onand s o you ha ve my r eport on what 1 reall y saw , and wha t I a 11 ve ry cur ious a bout. T,ha.nks t o Lm. Dryde n f or hi s cour tes y i n l e tti:ie oe know j ust who to re l a t e t hi s i ncident to, a nd t ~a nks t o y ou fo r l i stening and I hope t ha t i t ;..akes t he right ki nd or i mpressi on . Si ncere l y y our■ , . ).{. ~ r.or e <Jorey / t ~ -,1,1 !!!~~ff ff!'i i~ilftl: -- • 111 I lilfJf!1 ·u(l;'1 ir~tf ~t~~! 11!1.i!l ic!!}t '!'j~ ~!J ~I! ! ; ~.!! .., t r •5 ' r ·E i·l ~ff[f~ t~fffj ~!lc~rii' irt,;lf l!t:lt~~ rlii:r ~itr~§ti1 Ii t -iii- J r•~l,.. fi .,...,...--,- 1,-! .. 1 - • ~ - ~Ao e;. fl I ~• t[ftff _.,. ~ • ~ bl ~ ~o b IQ ,iiil~ r'.'"i ( _ l 8 ~ I.' I!' (l i ~ If._ b ••o 21hi f i!rfi J[t.;~1 i f i1 l s f Ji i i 8 !f, I ,... ., P:!,a, f'.. e r • • ~l~i;,i• i 2 (£ • • f f-t r~,, iii ;;,11,1 in II : ttfJ~ i s. a';~ ~i .. 0 l ... % 0 :c II~ ; l ~ =~ j ii :c ~ G~ iz > h J ~ 11 O i ~ . .,. :I 8 :• i - .. l1fJ1i~~ ii ' • ~ ~ i o i ~ ~~' ~I J 0 f.- i"f c ~ g~~i,, :,iai,1,; ·I . JI Ia f, lffit[J: ~;eif I ~f_iJ~ f& .f ~~ ~ .. 1 1 • 8 • , ... I. - f 8 V\. ! ,~. ! &.. "' :I - ,"' > ~ > 5 ) • conditiona, and that the objec~ 111.g bt be either ffl"tical or bori.sonal. !bl subject rel&t.d that an7 change 1n spNCl ot the car reault.ed 1n a change 1n spNd ot the object, and that cbang•• ot di.Net.ion reaultecl 1n a change 1n th• anclA ot t.ra~l ot the object. I NKLSON atatecl be bu not talked to arq peraou that bad a c t ~ aND ~ aucera or daca but he bell.end tbat thue renect.iou plu the u . o i ~ t and b,rateria caued b7 other report. bu been tbe buia tor.,., ~ M\ICer report.. Subject aleo •tatecl tbat th1a .... tbeol7 coald be t.ra• 1n relation t o ~ Mucera •Mn troa aircraft. Attached hereto 18 a detailed atat...nt b7 ~ • c o ~ h18 nnct1np and •xp)a1n1ng h1a aoluUon to the BO-Called Fq1ng Sancer lf;1wter'y'. ~IJ. L.1u:Mn D. SDl'.>11 C.I., U.S. AfflT 2 ..JLYDO SAUOBR M!STBRY SOLRD ' Julf 12, 1947. Th• aoat 1apnaa1•• report• ot the ao-oalled fiylng aauoera or d1aoa wre tho•• tro ■ ariatora llbo clai■ th•J . ,, aaw diac-abaped obJ•c~• flying through the air 1n Yarioua toraationa at high altitudes and at a high rate ot apeed . The tirat report waa tro■ an arlator who atated that th••• ao■ewhat ao-called flying d1eca had a ahiny appearance and would fly in formation and change their poa~tion from t1ae to time. Moat report• atated that they appeared in the late afternoon or about dusk. Most all report• were to the effect that theae objects had the appearance of an inverted diac or saucer, and ao• of them reported that they appeared to be rotatin ~ in their flight. The mystery of the flying aaucers or discs may be sol­ ved by the. uae of a little applied science along with a few simple experiments. These fiying discs or saucers can be observed by any mot ori st traveling along the highways when the aun is shining on moat any afternoon or evening. During the day­ light moat of these ao-called flying discs a re r eflections from the sun shining upon some bright object in or on the automobile driven by the observer. For instance, if you were driving i n a north-westerly direction with the sun . ahininJ on the handle of the front or rea r door on the l eft side of the car, you may notice a shiny obj ect a ppear in the ventilation wing of the window on th~ drivers left , if it is opened to about a 45° angle. tbeH lhllly objeot ■ ■ay hn• -.rloua tor■■ and th•re ■ay . be aore than one, dependia& on the nuaber ot retlectioa ■• They aay appear to be 1D the aky when th• drinr look• through th• Yent11a,1on wins &la~•• Their poa1t1on in th• ■ky depend ■ upon·the angle at lilllich th• objeot la reflected 1D· th• ftn• ·tilation wing ·a nd the poaition of the obaer.er. They may baTe yarioua !ol'lla but ••17 frequently they are or a aaucer ahape or a tat ahape when they appear-to be in the aky. Tbe ••ntilation wing during day-light ie not ot cour•• a pert•ct ■irror, therefore, it a ppears to the driver or ob­ aener that h• ia actually looking through the g laaa into the aky. Aa h• ao••• along, t he bright obje ct• a ppear to be traTeling at a high rate ot apeed in comparison with the atationary objects on the ground, or the distant horison, that he aeea through the window, or in comparison with the faintlf ailbouetted objects on th• landacape which at times are re­ flected in th• window. Th• fiying saucer a ppeara t o be travelini.i; in the ea.me general direction aa the automobile but sometimes a little to the right which makea it a ppear t hat it will eventual ly croea the driYera path. The a pparent flight direction or the aaucer is due to the angle of the ventilation wing glass in it.a relation to the direction in which the car ia trave ling. The number and poaition ot t he saucers reflefted int.he glaaa depend upon ~h• number and contour of object• reflected there­ in by t.h• aun. Bri:;ht objects on a car a pproaching from the rear ■ay caat such reflections on your ventilat i on wing in the daytille• . (2) It th• ._,11at1on wing window were a perfect airror th• obJeota oauain& the re£leot1ona would a ppear therein••• well•• all ot.ber object• within range, but th• ventilation win being a aort ot a aeal-alrrc>r, do•• not Nllect the obje ct but only th• bright .•pot, which leaves the impression that the obaerver 1a actually looking through the glaaa and tha t the obj e ct act­ ually a opears to be in the aky, or at timea a lon~ diet ance away. Th••• Nault• are beat obtained in the late artemoon, or after aun down. Tba arlatora who reported seeing fiying diace or saucers , undoubtedly were seeing th• reflection of bright objects in or on their own plane. They nw t.hem aa r efle cted in t heir canopy or wind ahield, but failed t o recognise the m as retlectiopa. Oth•nd.•• t.hey were retlectione from other air craft . As the aviator ·traveled along obaervin~ the n,ovement of the disc in coapari aon with tbe mounta i ns , clouds or station­ ary object• on the earth, male them appear to be traveling at a high rat• or speed. Th• sloping angle or t he avi a tors wind-ahield and h is position in the plane made it a ppear that the discs were in the sky. The poaition of t he discs al so depend upon the position of the observer and the angle at which they are Nflected in t he gl a sa. Some ot the report• stated that where there were more than on• flying disc, they appeared to be tastenH ~ogether and frequently perf ormed a dipping or rising motion and when one would dip, they wo~ld all go thro•.igh the same " otion s i m­ ultaneoualy. The aiaultaneous movemant iu due t v t he reflect- lona all coming troa the aame object. ()) ror instance, 1! they a re r eflected tro■ eome ·bright objec t i n or on the car or plane , th• up and down motion or the car or plane cause• the tlyi ng discs to a ppear to be &oing thro ugh a di pping and riaing motion, or , if the reflecting ob ject i e atationvry a nd the car movi ng , th• results will be the••• • The statement that the diec a a ppeared to be rot a t in1 aa they aailod through the atmoophere ie due to the vibration ot the automobile or plane . Vibrations make thu, a ppear to be rotatin~ a t a very high rate ot s peed . Vibration is lfhat ives . them a flat or disc- like ahape - also • If you wish to see some fly1n~ di s c s , make a drive a t about dusk or at ni , ht , open your ventila tion win~ window at about a 45° ang le from tho Jrivers seat and watch the refl ections o! the ets tionary elec~ric lights t h ,t a ppear on your left , if you are driving , a!t3r you paos th e~ 1 and s ee how many discs you can obeerYa flyi n~ through the air . It there a r e not t oo many l i ghts t o your rea r, you may have a pe rtect formation of beautiful flying discs wh ich may be red, reen or ~i lver a c cordi n~ to the color of the elec t r ic ligh ts which you ha~• passed. ap They ar moat realistic \,hen travel i n ~ a bout fo rty-five or fift y ail•• per hour. Ir you do not get satistactory r esults from your fir st experiments, try a gain . Afier yo 1 have learned when and nher• to l ook tor t hoc , your observation~ become more pleaoin ~ ..nd interes ting. Evon tho 11 : ht s of an approachin~ automobile f r vm your rear mn.y a ppear as one flying di s c 1n your ventila tion win~. The r efl ctions ot the approachin~ liyits will a p~ear in your veneilation uinb unless the eide ot your car prot rudes out so f a r as t.o pr e v .. nt tte 11 ~ t beam ""rom shinin , on the ·.:ing. .. ) - . ·.. Th••• appear beat when the approachin~ car is s ome distance away, perhaps a quarter or half a mile. The results at night may not be aa impressive ae tboae in the late afternoon because at night your ventilation wing window makes a more pertect mirror and the passing landaca~ is not as pronounced, theretore, the reflections therein are more easily detected as reflections. In t he l a te afternoon, boweYer, you have a teelin~ that you are act ua l ly looking through the glass and the r eflected objects • ~pear more real. The sun ahinin~ on a bright ring on your fin­ ger with your hand resting on the steering wheel may caat disc­ like reflections in your wind shield. The form or the reflect­ ion will depend upon the ornamental decorations on your ring. Th• rear door handle on my automobile reflects nine beau­ tiful, little, silver, flying disca in the bright sun-light. These appear in the lower part of the ventila tion wing and when traveling on a level highway, they appear to be racinz along with me at the road side. These nine discs a ppear in a fora­ ation of two rows ot four each, with the ninth one 1n the lead at the center ot the formation. They appear as whirling pro­ pel lers in a vertical position. · These discs also have atreaa­ era which are due to the curYeture and decorative pattern on the handle. While traveling north in the early afternoon under a bright s\Dl, these nine discs appeared tar below to my lert, racing up the Talley at a terri fic rate. You may be able to ••e flying disc ■ 1n your own home. It you will tum on a aaall electric light 1n the hall-way and then l>olc through the window at the other end ot the hall, // (S) you aay s e e aa many as three flying discs from one electric light bulb, w<hich may haTe more or less of a bell shape. Thea• discs many timoa • ppear as inverted aaucera, and it you will change 7our ?()Si tion slowl y you will see that they change their position also. Those ara best obserTed in the late a ftomoon or between sun do..u and dusk, lilen it a ppears to you that you ara merely look1n~ through the window pane at the discs sus­ pended in the distance. As darkness comes on, the window pane becomes a more perfect mirror nd your discs a ppear as r e flect­ ions 1n a llirror. To watch the discs, through your vent i lation \·:ine; , Nil along ui th you as you drive through the country, b e c omes Tery rascinat1ng, eapacially if' you use a little imagination. It may absorb your t hought• completely, therefore , I ,ould adaon­ iah •~0110bil~ driTera watching the flying discs, t o be cautious • and not. run orr the road or into some other car. Some or t he reports on tlying aaucera, heretofore not ex­ plai.D~in this article, such as those re ported seeing bright fl.aahea 1n the aky, were no doubt reflected sun-light fro■ plane s. These light beams chanced to cross t h e line of vision of the obaerYer. - They frequently appear Yery brilliant and may aore or l••• blind the obsener for an instant. If the plane 1a Yery high it may not be aeen by the observer, which aa7 be due to iapaired Tia1on or the great height at 'Nhich the plane 1a flying. \le very often get th••• aame blinding flaahea fro■ automobile wind-ahielda, Many ot the repor'ta I around July 4th. were incited by variou• tortDa ot fire worka. I SOllle report.a ateamed tro■ pure illagination or hysteria. while other• were deliberate hoaxes • .my other re ports can be ex­ pld.ned it all the surrounding facts a r e known . Moat all of' the r e-.iorta and descri-ptions of the flying aaucera coincide eo clearly with the findings herein. that there could be no doubt bu~ that we baYe the correct aolution. Th• ~oregoing atate. .nt may not be coached in precise ac1ent11"1c t•nu• and may not be acientitically exact. bow­ eyer, we belieYe it la ao worded that the average l ayman can understand it and that it ii. ~,1fticiently correct to prove the proposition. Persona1ly• I do not belieYe that the so-called flying aaucers or the solution thereof. are or any military value, unl••• the Govemment wished to retain this information for the psychological effect upon any potential enemy nation, auch aa Germany d id 1n regard to their so-called secret . weapons during the war• / • . . .. Co4e llOA 7 Aapat 1947 DI, MIMOWDQM. !'O: Ae ■ t CM,d of Air ltaff-2 Collection Branch, W Vaahin,;ton 25, D. c. 1. IJ'he inclo■uN 1• an excerpt fro• a letter to Dr. E. Tou.e7, Micron Ya•-■ Section Bead. Jra.al Be ■earch La)ora,­ to17, troa Mr. John 7. Cole, pert&Ulin« to ■oM ,midentifiH obJect• which Mr. Cole report ■ to baTe •een •ome ti• prior to the fir•t report• of •tl)'in« ■aucer•• in the Iev England area. 2. Dr. 'l'ouae7 ■tat•• that Mr. Cole 1• a well-mown ..,ronomer and a reliable ob■ener a■ a reault of hi ■ trainiJI«. 3. The inclo■ure 1• in a441tion t o intoraation coatainecl i n prenoua letter■ to 7our office taken fro■ 1nterT1ew• at the reque•t ·of Lt. Col . G. D. Garrett, Ail A.-3. 1 A"' ne1. !' hcerpt ! 11 l tr t o Dr. Touae7 2 / r ;1 ~ ""'"" WIL LIAM P. MP!.t,J.D ,, Major, Air Corpe AMC Liaison Officer )layal Re ■earch Laborator,. ..) - 'lxce1•p, troa letter to Dr. B. 'l'ouH7 fro■ ~. John "I. Cole South Brook•Tille, Ne. Jul7. ae, 1947. BaTing in ■ind the ri~cule which ha■ been beape4. on thoH iuocnt or per-hap• cullible ind.iTidual• who baTe reported dielca, I would be a little oauUoue in lnterpretlq. :But it 1e eat• to ■ay trutbtull7, that ■oMthiDC 'UlU11&1 attracted~ attention, and I vae in a perfectl7 eober . condltioa, 'barrinc the •lld etllnllation, atforded b7 cool ■pring water filterinc throuch llorth BaTen green■ton• craclca. It ahould be eae7 to deteraiu if the •di•k•• were a uv type jet plue, or bomber, or r ocket. '!'he !a.ct t':-t.t it vaa Jul7 3, about 3&30 P. M. ( auaaer tiM) or Greenwich C1T11 t1•e 1830 ■icht wcce•t that the7 were •acace4 in ao• naTal demon■tration from :l&atportl, Bar Harbor or :Belfaat. The group appeared to be at an alt1tu4e of about fiO - I autfer troa a aild cenical arthriti ■--'but rq e7e• are well corrected tor aatigaa­ ti•• and bn,enNtropia, and I doubt if rq cerebral. cortical Ledon• are euffic­ lentl7 &chanced to affect rq balance. What firet -.de•• look up vae the un­ uWLl.17 loud roar and I va• eurprhed not to He a well defined group ot pl&nH quite near. Inetead I had to look rather eharpl7 to••• the bunch-of Te1'7 licht colored obJecta, in a pneral northerl7 direction and tr&TelliDC ro~7 in a n (true) direction. Thi• vaa reaeonabl7 correct,•• I vaa on Co:x'• hill, ud looked OTer toward■ :Baclcvood'• Mount, that 1• the conspicuoua flat tep planated hill at llarbor•ide. '!'he group could hardly haTe cOTered aore than lt0 azacular diaaeter in the eq, and bunched rather cloeely with DO regular toraation. There ■ight haTe been 10, I couldn't ••Y and with 90 1 ot arc eprea4, would -•iiy be within the limit of Ti ■ibility for di•creet ob­ ject■• A■ a group they were goin« •o •• to coTer 31J0 of arc, eetimated of coune, in perbap• 10 or 15 eecond•. I f one of them, ■ay, eubtended 1/10°, with a po•eible wuic apre&4 of 100 feet, 1t would put 1t at a di ■tance of oTer 10 a1lee, and quite inTieible for a light obj ect. Beeide ■, vlth 30° arc~ traftl at a 10 111. dietance vould be roughly 6 ■ile• in 15 aeconda or 20 111. per ■inute or 1200 mi . per hour! !--rather f&at for a bo■ber--hi. A fiO ft. object at ~ mile■ diet . would be about 600 111. per hr.-alao taet golnc. !'he only concrete e-t·idence of fon apoeared on the left tancent of tbe group-tvo dAlrlc ahaped fora•: ~ tf;J which a&7 h&Te been tail wine•. Doen't tbe DouglaH bomber haTe theae? And llince they were in no regular for■ation, but aee■ed MOD« the■aelTe ■ to be ■oTln« irre«ularly like a ■var■ of be••• vb)- ehould.n' t all of the• han ahovn win«-? The loud roar .-a««••h the7 11a7 haft been auch cloaer, and rather amall. 'rbe •lc;y baeqTOtmd vaa bas7 bl111, ad the eun behind ■e. One -plane tovin« a lo• of balloone, I belieTe, vould baTe been e&eily r8Cognised. BaT7 any Meteorite• been re­ ported? At that ti•• of uy. ha• there been an7 abrupt cb.all«• of radio field etnDgth? or ionization? .. . .. OFFICE OF THE Alll INSPl!:CTCR 26 JULY li47 AC/ AS-2, Counter Intelligence Branch MElfORAJlDUK TOa l. Informati on contained herein and opinion• expresaed are baaed upon conve rsat ion with and request by Mr. Butler ot your orfice. All pertain t o certai n phenonema c onne cted with recent widespread talk or "flying saucer•"• 2. Approximat ely three weeks a go, on or about 7 July 1947, I prepared to go to be d around 2230 or 2300 EDT. I was livi ng at 2807 North Glebe Road , Arli ngton, Virginia, with my wife. Illustration No. l s hows the ceneral layout or the r ooJ11 we occupied at that time. See Illustrat ion No. l. ;r ( _J I \ I\ ) UJ /, f, \ 5. I had juat turned ott th• light by my bedside. but aat down on the aide ot the bed to listed to the end ot a radio proue,m betor. reclizdng . ID the -,a.ntiae. ay wit• and I ••r• hanng •01111 con-nr••tion about the seleotion or certain t'urniture tor a hCIIW we had juat purchaaed. At the tiae or these ewnt•• as I aat t"acinr; the windows. a light appeared at the right•hand edge ot the extreae and window and mo-nd rapidly along to diaappea.r below the tree• or horilon. or to be extinguished in s c.e taahlon at acae place in a general southerly direction. Thi• 1a illustrated on the tollowing page by a very tentatiYe aketch. See Illuatration No. 2. . ,/ Al l .t.' ·"'""~ ~ ,,,,. ~ r I__ / / . / f ' .J / a .... CJ;. . t. At the ti-, 1inoe my attention wa• diTided and ab1orbed among the 1ubjeot1 •ntioned, JI)' reaction wa1 limply that "a light paued b)"," and I gaw no turther thought to th• •tter until •oae moment• later, When th• thought o... to . . that I had nenr aeen 1uo}) an object betore, and that although the tir•t explanation would have been that a meteor had fallen ~ r d earth in that direction, it did not han the appearance ot any •t•or or "1hooti~ •tar" I had ever ■-Mn. Tbinlc:1~ ot the then­ prenlent talk of flying diak:1, I :refleo\ed that probably 1ome auoh thing a• I had just 1een wa■ the aou:roe ot a large &110unt of newapape:r and radio publicity on the 1ubject. The next morning I jeatingly announced in the office that I nw a tlying Hucer the nigtlt betore and thought that it wa1 enroute to Alexand:ria,where •ome ot our o.ffice:r1 liT•• I then went on to aay that I 1uppo1ed it wa ■ a •hooting 1tar, but that it did look: 1011tewhat peculiar. At'ter we had diaou•••d the general topic tor acae t1ae, I dropped the subject, not wiahing to add to the auppoaed nao:r1, which I enviaioned aa a aouro• ot 1eriou1 panic over the country. 6. A cleaoription ot the light, or object 1• almoat impoaaible, aince obaerntion o.f it waa 10 limited. A• ahown in Illustretion Ro. 2, the object appeared top••• in cloaeat proximity t o • at the tiJDe it came into view. All o.f my mental calculation• were baaed upon acme impression or oonoeption ot it• diatance at the clo1est point, (AC). I had no way ot judgi~ thil, except in the form o.f ffry crude depth­ peroeption. Ir this by any chance were correct, ar.d inatead of a di•• tant meteor aome objoot had passed near-by, I would assume tor purpose• of description that the distance AC on the sketch was SOl!le three quarter• ot a mile. OM factor which I could judge quite reliably was the angular elevation. Thi.a Ja1St haTe been approximately 3 or 4 degrees, at any rate, the light was lnte:rmlttently behind the tallest treea forward of ay position a• lt pa1aed, and these treea are or a normal height, perhap• aixty or eighty feet at a diate.no~aeveral blocks . Baaod upon a aild aasuaption aa to distance, and a reaaon.able as•U11ption aa to angular elevation, the object would be at a low altitude, conaiderably bolow 500 feet, and ot a size approximating a ..all airplane, say 30 1'9et aero••• The •h•pe nay have been round. 0...1, discal, or irre&ula:r; at the •peed with lfhich it travelled, I could only percein it a• a "blob." I do not conaider the distance mentioned to be leas than 3/4 11111•, lNtoauH had 1t been. I tee l sure th• t, late in the evenin:; and w1 th all my winf\owa open, I would haw heard aome sound, which I definitely did not in thi• ca••• It llight be well to poin~ out here the relati.,. siailarity in •ize, altitude and airspeed of~ .firefly at a diatanoe ot 30 feet, au airplane at about 3/4 mile, and a aeteor at senral hundred ail••• Moat of u• are familiar with thi• illuaion. .. . . .. . e. Although I oould not aoourately judg• th• t i • , I 1eena to recall the object or light wa■ Ti■ibl• tor a couple ot ■ econd■• Taking thi ■ tigure literally and applying it to the ■ketch, Bo.· 2, on• could roughly compute th• a peed ot the objeot at 1350 aphJ however, I did not ■ enH that it wa■ aorlng with ■uoh great ■peed a ■ thi•. It rather appeared to acwe with the •pe•d o t a jet-powered airplane. It did not deviate tram a ■traight oour ■e While I ob■ernd it, and did not perceptibly lo•• altitude. 'I• In color, the ■ubjeot had the appearance ot a retlected wh1 te light, a oool, bright white light with no red in 1t, like the naoon on a olear night. Th•r• wa■ no train v1■1ble to - • in the torm ot fire, ■-oke, or ■para. The wather at the aaaumed time and date was checked through record■ ot the BollinC Pield weather otf'ioe, and con■iated ot acattered to broken clCNdl with v1a1bilitie■ ot 10 - 12 mil••• 1'h• cloud condition 1• further indication that the object wa■ not nece■■arily a •.teor, ■inoe it aigbt have been impoaalble to ••• a •teor. I do not per■ onally re-lll>er th• . .ather condition, except that I am sure it wa■ not raining. a. At th• t i - ot thia occurrence, I waa not incll.Ded to think ot it ■-rioualy enough to wake ay wit• and deacribe it to her, nor by a~ reaaoalng to ll&b otticial r4port. Aa tiae paaaed, I thought considerably about the neeting glimp■• I bad ot whatenr I ■aw, and aa ■till aomewhat contuNcl, but teel that it waa acae natural phenomenon which occur■ but rarely. I have tlown appro:d.11m.tely 2500 how-a during th• put ~ ■-nn year• and being 1•nerally tam.liar with a■peota ot a-nation -.n -phati­ oally atate that (a) •it wa■ no weather balloon, (b) it was not the tla1h or a beacon on th• oloud-b&■-, (c) it could hardly have beon an airplane on tire, ■inc• it would han at least caaahed in thia general area, (d) it wa■ not entirely a re■ult ot i•gination, and (e) it waa not ■pending auo h tiae in one place. Yi-- . ~ -~ / / (,/"" JAIIES O. COBB Lt Colonel, Air Corpe I ' -Mft.TTO AINT LWICIJ OffICS . .-=rolt..NIWAL IIISEAIICH LMORATORY WASISJlr:a,,a. D. C. --TO: Cou NAVY DEPARTMENT NAVAL RESEARCH LABORATORY uo WASHINGTON 20, D . C. 38 .Tul7 194'7 stJB.mC'f: ft7bc Saueen 1'0: .laet . Chld O'f Air ftatt-2 Collection Breach, AD ~ 36, D. C. , hppleaeiatal to tbat coatalne4 ill a letter'° 70v O'fflce, tatecl 18 J11l7 194.,, re lnternw with Mr. c. II. Zohn who purport• to._... . . • 1m14attf1ect flJinc object . tbe followtnc &441ttonal ldol'll&UOD ,_. obtatne4 Oil 21 Jul7 froa c. c. llockwoocl. who we Mlltlonecl la lbat letter ae •Tille &leo eeen the object. C. C. Bockwoo4 NpOt"t• the object to han been either a •1ln17 aphere or 41ec, which be W01114 ban tabn to be a •teorolopo&l 'balloon eseept for tbe fact tbat U ,... tranlltnc at a aach higher nloclt7 tllaa the autoao'bll• a4 approxiaatel7 1n tbe .... 41recUoa. !he auto­ ao'bll• we aoTlnc a1HNt eo aiph. !'bere vaa 11u1e, u 8117, -.daoe wlJMl. 1lba tint .... at • •l•.,.Uoa O'f abo11t 46° 1 t appeancl about of • coul4 bear nothinc abon the nolN of the no ■-,a or contre.Ue. Ille . . . . •1■- ae t.be . , .. car. r,..., It• aoUoa , . . appanatl7 &11 horisoatal. It• aspect 414 aot cllMce eo h.l'. . Cftlcl be olNterncl cl1U'1.nc tbe U • O'f obeenat1oa. • thoupt it 41Nppe&N4 'b7 •1apl7 beco■J.llc too -11 to •"• cu,Jt~/?'JJtdL_. YILLUM P. fflJ,P Major . Air Corpe .AMC L1&1eo